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Old 09-01-2012, 10:40 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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I come from a long line of southern white trash. Black folk didn't build anything for us.


 
Old 09-01-2012, 10:47 AM
 
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Exactly, while freedom is more important poor white immigrants were treated far worse than most slaves because they were considered expendable. They weren't property and there is no capital investment in them.
Yeah right.





Yes, slaves were so valued as property that in the wake of the Nat Turner rebellion 200 slaves were murdered in retaliation a number which didn't include the 55 executed for actually taking part in it.
 
Old 09-01-2012, 10:49 AM
 
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Another case of making it up as we go...

Slavery was abolished in New York in 1799. Construction on the canal began in 1817.

Complete abolition wasn't until 1827 according to Wikipedia, I would assume since only the children of slaves were freed the slaves themselves remained slaves.

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History of slavery in New York - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The state passed a law for gradual abolition in 1799; after that date, children born to slave mothers were free but required to work an extended indentured servitude into their twenties. All slaves were finally freed on July 4, 1827 and blacks in New York celebrated with a large parade.
 
Old 09-01-2012, 10:57 AM
 
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Complete abolition wasn't until 1827 according to Wikipedia, I would assume since only the children of slaves were freed the slaves themselves remained slaves.
That should read, abolition wasn't "completed" until 1827.
 
Old 09-01-2012, 11:02 AM
 
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Yeah right.
I said most slaves, not all slaves.





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Yes, slaves were so valued as property that in the wake of the Nat Turner rebellion 200 slaves were murdered in retaliation a number which didn't include the 55 executed for actually taking part in it.
There is similar stories from the hard coal mining area, do some research on the Molly Maguires. Besides the murders/executions do you have any idea how many men/boys were killed in these mines? Tens of thousands. This site only lists the major ones and doesn't list the common fatalities that happened on a daily basis:

Historical Coal Mine Disasters in the Anthracite Region
 
Old 09-01-2012, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Prison!
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Yes, I think we should remembered what happened in the past to every damn race that came into this country, and we should learned from it. But the question is, do we still want to live in the past?
 
Old 09-01-2012, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Indiana
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Discuss......true or not?!
wow you do really think like the democrats!!!! there are plenty of black republicans, so yes they did had a great part.
 
Old 09-01-2012, 11:09 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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Yes, I think we should remembered what happened in the past to every damn race that came into this country, and we should learned from it. But the question is, do we still want to live in the past?
The present is a slave to the past. We cannot escape it.
 
Old 09-01-2012, 11:15 AM
 
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I said most slaves, not all slaves.
That's fine. The point remains, besides the utterly ridiculous assertion that slaves were too valuable to be used for "dangerous work" the fact is that slavery was on the wane well before construction began on the canal. And by the way, as you pointed out, children did work in that era.
 
Old 09-01-2012, 11:15 AM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Republicans built America? Nonsense! -- It was built by the blacks!




Definitely not so. This country was built by the sweat of many different people of many nationalities. To say the blacks built America is a farce to say the least.
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