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Interesting how no one has mentioned a 2nd UN disarmament meeting happening right now! Home - Reaching Critical Will What happened after the first one?
Jefferson lived during a time when most people in power had a moral standard and decency about them. if we were to redo the Constitution now, with all the socialism and libealism around, we would lose most of what we hold dear. The problem is not the 221yo document (from the Bill of Rights), but with the many people who see the document as holding back the Government as opposed to protecting the right of individuals.
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The world was more violent and less respectful of individual rights during Jefferson's time, or did you miss how everyone other than white, landowning men were treated? I realize many of you are calling for us to return to that paradise, but there are still a few of us who do not.
"Can you please explain how the UN can confiscate your guns? You do realize that Congress cannot confiscate your guns, nor can your local authorities come in and just confiscate your guns, correct?"
Who missed cvics?
chicago and DC made laws of posession within city limits illegal
activist judge in NJ imprisoned an innocent gun owner who was later exonerated
all but impossible to get a permit to carry in Nj while other stes are more liberal....
states limit calibers of guns that can be used
the government asks doctors to ask patients if they own a gun..and medical records are to go on-line for medical research by the government?
insurance companies may have issues with guns in the house
Mass does not let anyone travelling thru the state to have a pistol in possession unless they call the state police ahead of time
some municpalities in NJ drag their feet when processing firearms ids and pistol permits
regulatory czars bypass congress with all sort of regs making it more difficult to manufacture guns and ammunition as well as prohibiting use of firearms
have a wife or girlfriend get angry and mention she feels threathed whether it be an offhand comment or not and the cops come in and take your guns....good lcuk getting them back
you can be bequeathed a gun and reference federal and state law which unequivacally states, 'you own that gun" now try to take possession of it with having to get a permit to purchase.....point being archaic and new laws are intentionally nebulous and confusing to frighten away potential gun owners
you have to 'buy', by legal language, a gun you already own. the fees charged by ffls hover around a 100$$ so less expensive family heirlooms are abandoned..more guns out of citizens hands
the feds can declare any given firearm 'illegal' and create criminals of law abiding citizens.
certain categories of public property purchased with certain funds do not allow for hunting. Problem is this is like a poison pill in that the properties have been purchased and as activists discover this fact more areas open to hunting will be eliminated....cascads to gun ownership and why have a gun if you can't hunt locally...people give up hubnting...like the migratory bird regs which are so strict many duck hunters have hung up their decoys.
Overt confication has many degrees of enforcement all the way to the most subtle regulations. Read all the firearm regs you want and claim you understand them, then give those same laws to a lawyer or prosecutor and what you thought you read wasn't even close.
Prevention of ownership makes the need to confiscate un needed but the goal is the same.
As for the UN, the US is the enforcement arm. As Obama and his handlers seek to morph the US and its constitution into a global community where other countries can vote for US president. See dorn and Ayres speeches in the middle east if this sounds unbelievable. See how global warming regs quietly ended up in your state regs.....firearm regs will take that same path around the back door.
We are not a nation of shortsighted zombies and euro like automatons...we do not wait for situations to fester as Euros do with their ineffective rhetoric as they pretend to be global sophicates.
there was great email circulating which listed all of history's despots and their common philosophy of firearm confiscation.....the hitlers and Maos of today would be aligned with the UN proposals of today. The UN would do their job and allow them to claim they aren't against gun ownership.
Casper writes: "it has nothing to do with protecting anyones interests, it has to do with determining whether a law is Constiutional "
Question, when they are placed or endorsed by a party....wouldn't it be *hard* to not have a bias? I think there are many instances when a particular SC lawyer has been ...leaning a particular way, and it seems that there history does help determine their attitude of things. Conservative judges...liberal judges...they do impact what is legal, and of course, perception is everything...yes? So my question, their politics would have to effect their decisions, and who put them there of course, as well, correct?
Yes a majority of the nine robe wearing agenda driven government lawyers have determined so
As employees of the state they can always be counted on to protect its interests.
You have summed up the republican hypocracy perfectly.
You see, our founding fathers created the constitution and the bill of rights. At the same time they created the Supreme Court whose sole purpose is the interpretation of the constitution as it applies to law and the people of the nation. They are "Supreme" in their interpretation. The founders made it so that not the congress nor the executive can ursurp the rulings of the Supreme Court.
You have given the perfect example of republican constitutional duplicity.
For you, the constitution means whatever a bunch of local republicans get together at the kitchen table and say what it means. You then tell that lie over and over and over. You do not accept the rulings of the Supreme Court as the founders intended.
Truth is......you can't have one without the other. The founders intended it to be that way. The Supreme Court is "Supreme" in it's rulings. You stand behind the constitution, you stand behind the robes of the supreme court. You can't have one without the other.
You have summed up the republican hypocracy perfectly.
You see, our founding fathers created the constitution and the bill of rights. At the same time they created the Supreme Court whose sole purpose is the interpretation of the constitution as it applies to law and the people of the nation. They are "Supreme" in their interpretation. The founders made it so that not the congress nor the executive can ursurp the rulings of the Supreme Court.
You have given the perfect example of republican constitutional duplicity.
For you, the constitution means whatever a bunch of local republicans get together at the kitchen table and say what it means. You then tell that lie over and over and over. You do not accept the rulings of the Supreme Court as the founders intended.
Truth is......you can't have one without the other. The founders intended it to be that way. The Supreme Court is "Supreme" in it's rulings. You stand behind the constitution, you stand behind the robes of the supreme court. You can't have one without the other.
repubs are not the only guilty party, the dems are just as bad.
It's universal, isn't it? All of you leftist sleep walkers suffer this same disease that has resulted in this intellectual coma. What you are saying here is that it's OKAY for them to keep shooting at us, so long as they miss. And you actually think this represents some sort of logical reasoning or rational thinking?
Well, it's not OK. And it's beyond ignorance to think like that. Furthermore, they don't always miss, which is why we have the many laws and restrictions that we already have in place today, which I'm in no mood to list for you at the moment.
Suffice it to say that I see no point in further attempts to reason with the ass ends of a herd of ostriches.
Oh, I agree. There is a sizeable faction in America that would take away every gun in the land if given half the chance. But rational people like myself who fight them on their own terms in state and local legislatures and form second amendment groups have had them on the run for many years now. We try to keep the chicken littles such as yourself out of the discussion as it just discredits the hard work of others in protecting gun rights in a logical, sensable manner.
One loud, ranting "chicken little" or "kitchen table constitutionalist" in a meeting with state legislatures tends to discredit our whole efforts and set the whole gun rights movement back.
Casper writes: "it has nothing to do with protecting anyones interests, it has to do with determining whether a law is Constiutional "
Question, when they are placed or endorsed by a party....wouldn't it be *hard* to not have a bias? I think there are many instances when a particular SC lawyer has been ...leaning a particular way, and it seems that there history does help determine their attitude of things. Conservative judges...liberal judges...they do impact what is legal, and of course, perception is everything...yes? So my question, their politics would have to effect their decisions, and who put them there of course, as well, correct?
The answer is yes it would be hard for many to put aside their own politcal leanings, that is why there is an interview process by both sides of the politcal spectrum and that is why some never get appointed to the SC, the point is to put in people that can look past their own POV politically.
Still waiting for any legislation in the last decade that has taken guns away from Americans.
And you will continue to wait since there hasn't been any and righties will ignore your question.
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