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Old 09-01-2012, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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The GOP sure does. Forcing their religious views on the american people is one of their staples.

Interesting...in a stupid sort of way.

What "religious views" of the GOP are being forced on the American people that are not the actual non-religious desires of the American people who put these Republicans in office?

Are Atheists being forced to attend church on Sunday?

Are Agnostics required to tithe at local houses of worship?

Have marriages performed outside churches been annulled?

Are school kids being bussed to Bible camp against the wishes of their parents?


Do tell us TempestT68, what "religious views" are being forced onto the American people?
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:19 PM
 
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No wine, no beer, no espresso or coffee? All they would have to do now is promote a low-carb diet (no pasta) and all people of Italian descent would look at Mormons as being an abomination.
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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No wine, no beer, no espresso or coffee? All they would have to do now is promote a low-carb diet (no pasta) and all people of Italian descent would look at Mormons as being an abomination.
You mean they don't already think of us as one?
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Old 11-15-2020, 07:02 AM
 
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According to Joseph Smith, the founder of the Latter Day Saint movement, the Word of Wisdom was received in 1833 as a revelation from God. After Smith's death, Brigham Young stated that the revelation was given in response to problems encountered while conducting meetings in the Smith family home:

When they assembled together in this room after breakfast, the first they did was to light their pipes, and, while smoking, talk about the great things of the kingdom, and spit all over the room, and as soon as the pipe was out of their mouths a large chew of tobacco would then be taken. Often when the Prophet [Joseph Smith] entered the room to give the school instructions he would find himself in a cloud of tobacco smoke. This, and the complaints of his wife at having to clean so filthy a floor, made the Prophet think upon the matter, and he inquired of the Lord relating to the conduct of the Elders in using tobacco, and the revelation known as the Word of Wisdom was the result of his inquiry.[4]

The Word of Wisdom was first published as a stand-alone broadsheet in December 1833. In 1835, it was included as Section LXXX[5] in the first edition of the Doctrine and Covenants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_of_Wisdom
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Old 11-15-2020, 07:10 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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A friend of mine is mormon and while he doesn't drink *hot* coffee, he likes it iced. An the last convention I was at he was mainlining soda. We asked him and he said it was okay if it was cold... hmmmm..... sooo strange is this rule.

Could never be a mormon, couldn't go without the hot steaming breakfast of choice.


Like many things. 'hot' is relative. One man's 'scorching' is another man's 'just right'.
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Old 11-15-2020, 07:21 AM
 
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Interesting...in a stupid sort of way.

What "religious views" of the GOP are being forced on the American people that are not the actual non-religious desires of the American people who put these Republicans in office?

Are Atheists being forced to attend church on Sunday?

Are Agnostics required to tithe at local houses of worship?

Have marriages performed outside churches been annulled?

Are school kids being bussed to Bible camp against the wishes of their parents?


Do tell us TempestT68, what "religious views" are being forced onto the American people?
For starters fighting against same sex marriage, abortion rights.
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Old 11-15-2020, 07:30 AM
 
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Whether or not he drinks caffeine is the least of mitt's worries.
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Old 11-15-2020, 07:31 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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For starters fighting against same sex marriage, abortion rights.
Which church has prevented a civil same sex marriage from taking place?

As for marriages within the context of their own religion, that is THEIR choice, according to their doctrine. It's not your choice. And it is not the State's choice.
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Old 11-15-2020, 07:37 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Which church has prevented a civil same sex marriage from taking place?

As for marriages within the context of their own religion, that is THEIR choice, according to their doctrine. It's not your choice. And it is not the State's choice.

He never said they did, only that they were "fighting against same sex marriage, abortion rights." which is bad enough. No religion's dogma should be the basis of US civil law.
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Old 11-15-2020, 08:21 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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He never said they did, only that they were "fighting against same sex marriage, abortion rights." which is bad enough. No religion's dogma should be the basis of US civil law.
So there are militants, officially commissioned by these phantom churches, in the street gunning people down "fighting against same sex marriage"? I think the problem here is that you are equating "fighting" with "not believing in." A church or individual has every right to believe or not believe anything they like. And, by US law, there is not a damn thing you can do about it. THAT is what gets you guys, and THAT is why you are trying to abolish the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

So, if someone doesn't believe in same sex marriage or abortion... that is just too bad for you. Get over it. Nobody is stopping your from marrying anyone or anything you like. Just not within the confines of a church that doesn't BELIEVE in that. And again, THAT is what gets under you folks' skins.
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