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Old 09-04-2012, 07:40 PM
 
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It also shows if "the nations"--it's the "nations" being judged here--DON'T do this, they get to go to hell.
I don't see it; neither nation nor any reference to a collectivist body appears in those verses.

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There are plenty of verses that speak of obligation to dependents.
But no verses that grant that a dependant may command those upon whom he depends, as is the case in a country that allows its financially unproductive to vote.

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Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
But it doesn't say to coerce another to visit, which is what the welfare state demands.

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28 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates:

29 And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.

Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

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Tithe is for the church. We're discussing taxes.
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Old 09-04-2012, 07:53 PM
 
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I am curious to hear why people feel the rich should pay more in taxes than the middle class for example. This seems to be a hot button issue for November.
Given that the wealthy get a lower rate because they derive so much from stocks, I'd be happy if they were taxed at the same rate as the middle class.
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Old 09-04-2012, 08:05 PM
 
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The owners of production (the rich) benefit far more so from things such as rail roads, interstates, etc than the worker bee paid a subsistence wage who rarely uses said services.
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