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My point for posting this was to show that the GOP platform of Eisenhower's era is pretty much in step, if not to the left of the modern Democratic Party and far to the left of the 2012 Republican platform. If this is the case, then why is the narrative that the Democrats have become more liberal when in fact the entire spectrum has moved to the right with the Democrats taking the ground occupied by Eisenhower and the GOP moving to the extreme right.
Abortion bans, restricting gay rights, rollback on environmental regulation, slashing the social safety net, financial deregulation, UN conspiracy theories are all now part of the Republican Platform, but yet Democrats are somehow running on "unimportant social issues."
I last voted in a Republican primary in 2000 because of this obvious right wing radicalization and would love top see a return to an Eisenhower era brand of pragmatic governance. Do other Republicans not agree or are you okay with what has happened to the party?
democrats dont count CHOSING to have sex a choice..democrats dont count CHOOSING to have unprotected sex a choice..and democrats dont want men to have a CHOICE in it at all, except if she choses to keep it, then men have NO CHOICE but to pay child support for 18 years
the fascist liberals arent about choice..they are about NEGATING choice
Right, and Republicans are all about "personal responsibility" -- except where pregnant women are concerned, then they should have absolutely NO say in what goes on in their uteruses.
The Republican Party Platform of 1956 is a fascinating document to read through as it shows how political parties can drastically change over time. Reading it you'll notice stances that are to the left of the modern Democratic Party and is anathema to the modern GOP, especially in light of the platform adopted in Tampa last week.
Some of the Republican stances from 1956: "We shall continue vigorously to support the United Nations."
"Continuance of the vigorous SEC policies which are providing maximum protection to the investor and maximum opportunity for the financing of small business without costly red tape."
"The record of performance of the Republican Administration on behalf of our working men and women goes still further. The Federal minimum wage has been raised for more than 2 million workers. Social Security has been extended to an additional 10 million workers and the benefits raised for 6 1/2 million."
"All workers have gained and unions have grown in strength and responsibility, and have increased their membership by 2 millions."
"Assure equal pay for equal work regardless of Sex;"
"We recommend to Congress the submission of a constitutional amendment providing equal rights for men and women."
"We shall continue to seek extension and perfection of a sound social security system."
There are many, many more extolling the virtues of good governance, protecting the environment, broadening workers rights, enforcing financial regulation and all sorts of other ideas that will get you labeled a socialist around here. So what happened to the GOP? Is there a disdain of Eisenhower within the party, or is there a collective loss of memory on what the GOP used to stand for?
My point for posting this was to show that the GOP platform of Eisenhower's era is pretty much in step, if not to the left of the modern Democratic Party and far to the left of the 2012 Republican platform. If this is the case, then why is the narrative that the Democrats have become more liberal when in fact the entire spectrum has moved to the right with the Democrats taking the ground occupied by Eisenhower and the GOP moving to the extreme right.
Abortion bans, restricting gay rights, rollback on environmental regulation, slashing the social safety net, financial deregulation, UN conspiracy theories are all now part of the Republican Platform, but yet Democrats are somehow running on "unimportant social issues."
I last voted in a Republican primary in 2000 because of this obvious right wing radicalization and would love top see a return to an Eisenhower era brand of pragmatic governance. Do other Republicanism not agree or are you okay with what has happened to the party?
What was the Dem platform from '56? Segregation now, segregation forever?
... and going back to the earlier point that the Democrats are allegedly obsessed with social issues, hasn't it been rather undermined by the fact that this has suddenly turned into yet another abortion debate, initiated by the anti-choice side?
If we wonder why both parties are so fixated on social issues, it just might be because they resonate so strongly with voters.
The Sixties and the civil-rights movement happened, and the backlash eventually inspired millions of evangelical Christians, who had previously abstained from politics, to become enthusuastic participants. Result: Reaganism, neoconservatism, and the complete takeover of the party by a toxic alliance of plutocrats and theocrats. The Tea Party is much more than a reaction to the election of Barack Obama -- it's just the most recent symptom of a very long illness.
Like many other people you seem to not know that the Tea Party is about fiscal conservatism period. Both the tea party patriotas and the tea party express have no social agenda. It's not in their mission statements.
For the same reason that the Democlowns pushed the phony war on women crap...... do distract the American people
They both serve the same master.... and it isn't the American citizens
True, but one evil can be lesser and have more good than the other.
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I don't know. She sure didn't ask me my opinion. And she sure doesn't represent me.
People like Bachmann didn't get the memo that most of us feel a family, however defined, deserves the support of the community.
That's great. Unfortunately, you certainly do not represent the mainstream republican base.
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im sorry, last i checked Mrs. Bachmann is no longer running for President, having been rejected by the Republican rank and file.
back to the topic at hand. Democrats HAVE to run on the abortion issue because they are utterly flummoxed when trying to explain the economy.
Honestly, I'd point out that Obama's economic policies haven't worked magic, but certainly did better than what another 8 years of Dubya's policies would lead us to. I'd also point out that the republican house has blocked major attempts at economic reform that the party historically supported, letting America fail to "win". It has an almost treasonous implication.
But Obama can't say any of this, or he'll come off as trying to play the blame game.
My point for posting this was to show that the GOP platform of Eisenhower's era is pretty much in step, if not to the left of the modern Democratic Party and far to the left of the 2012 Republican platform. If this is the case, then why is the narrative that the Democrats have become more liberal when in fact the entire spectrum has moved to the right with the Democrats taking the ground occupied by Eisenhower and the GOP moving to the extreme right.
Abortion bans, restricting gay rights, rollback on environmental regulation, slashing the social safety net, financial deregulation, UN conspiracy theories are all now part of the Republican Platform, but yet Democrats are somehow running on "unimportant social issues."
I last voted in a Republican primary in 2000 because of this obvious right wing radicalization and would love top see a return to an Eisenhower era brand of pragmatic governance. Do other Republicanism not agree or are you okay with what has happened to the party?
I'm pretty much a liberal, but I have voted for Republicans in the past, and I would consider voting for a Republican again if they returned to pragmatic governance. In the meantime, the Democrats are merely the lesser of the two evils in my mind because the party is not dominated by extremists (its dysfunctions are different). According to those polls that match your views with presidential candidates, though, I should be voting for Jill Stein, not Obama.
My point for posting this was to show that the GOP platform of Eisenhower's era is pretty much in step, if not to the left of the modern Democratic Party and far to the left of the 2012 Republican platform. If this is the case, then why is the narrative that the Democrats have become more liberal when in fact the entire spectrum has moved to the right with the Democrats taking the ground occupied by Eisenhower and the GOP moving to the extreme right.
Abortion bans, restricting gay rights, rollback on environmental regulation, slashing the social safety net, financial deregulation, UN conspiracy theories are all now part of the Republican Platform, but yet Democrats are somehow running on "unimportant social issues."
I last voted in a Republican primary in 2000 because of this obvious right wing radicalization and would love top see a return to an Eisenhower era brand of pragmatic governance. Do other Republicans not agree or are you okay with what has happened to the party?
The issues you are addressing - social issues - simply were not up for discussion in 1956 as they are today.
However, having said that, I resent greatly the domination of the far right wing into the GOP platform.
That's great. Unfortunately, you certainly do not represent the mainstream republican base..
But that's the thing.
I do represent the majority of Republicans between 18-65.
I have been active in politics since a teen. One facet of the party is dominating the platform, and it is all b/c of intimidation from evangelicals that stems from the late 80s thru/ the 90s.
Candidates think they have to adhere to this extreme rightwing view. So many of us who were very active (and I mean - at the precinct thru/ state level in positions of leadership) got pushed aside b/c we WERE moderate. Until folks like me are willing to step back into the fray and reclaim leadership of the party, this is what we are gonna get - far right platforms.
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