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Old 08-28-2012, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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In the past fifteen or twenty years there has been a radical shift in public opinion concerning same-sex "marriage". I remember a time when the question of whether homosexuals should have the right to marry was a non-question in almost all but the most liberal sectors of society. Rather, homosexualist organizations concentrated their efforts on fighting against discrimination and the like. It seems like only in the past decade, and especially the last 5 years, has same-sex marriage become an issue attracting major public attention.

We've had a discussion of how the public came to accept the idea of homosexuals arrying so rapidly, but I am posing this question on a more personal scale:

1. How were your opinions about same-sex marriage and homosexuality in general originally formed?
2. When did you first think seriously about same-sex marriage?
3. If there was a change in your stance, when did it occur, and what provoked it?


1. By my parents, originally, although the Catholic Church was most influential in shaping my later views on same-sex marriage.
2. Around the age of 15, or in 2002, when I began to debate the issue in an online teen forum.
3. No changes.
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Because I, like the founding fathers, believe that legislating morality is a terrible thing.

Marriage shouldn't be acknowledged by the federal goverment in any way.
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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Because I, like the founding fathers, believe that legislating morality is a terrible thing.

Marriage shouldn't be acknowledged by the federal goverment in any way.
But when were your views formed? Did you originally have a different opinion?
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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But when were your views formed? Did you originally have a different opinion?

My views of limited government and "leaving others to their business" formed first. When someone asked if gay people should be allowed to marry, I said "and I should care because?"

So I've had the same view on gay marriage since I first learned of it. Much like my view of polygamy, which in my southern baptist upbringing was not taught to me, until I read the bible.
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Being a straight, single male, I could give a crap either way. The gays are going to be gay regardless, nothing will change that, what do I care what they do? What a worthless topic for the country to be focused on given the current state of affairs.
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:20 PM
 
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Because I, like the founding fathers, believe that legislating morality is a terrible thing.

Marriage shouldn't be acknowledged by the federal goverment in any way.
How is gay marriage immoral?

We are not talking about beastiality, porn drugs or hookers you know

Marriage is about love between 2 people..... big difference

It is immoral to steal so we should not legislate that either
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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How is gay marriage immoral?

We are not talking about beastiality, porn drugs or hookers you know

Marriage is about love between 2 people..... big difference

It is immoral to steal so we should not legislate that either
I don't see it as a moral issue. I see that the only issue to be against gay marriage, is if it violates your morals and you're trying to legislate those morals on others.

I couldn't give a crap what other people do myself.
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:24 PM
 
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I don't see it as a moral issue. I see that the only issue to be against gay marriage, is if it violates your morals and you're trying to legislate those morals on others.

I couldn't give a crap what other people do myself.
Well we agree that gay marriage is something that should be kept out of the government and there is nothing wrong with it

With laws though, you have to legislate "morality" to some extent...... hence why some things should be and always will be illegal
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:24 PM
 
Location: TX
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1. How were your opinions about same-sex marriage and homosexuality in general originally formed?
My mom raised me to be Christian and therefore generally against same-sex marriage and homosexuality, but she wasn't one of those rabid "Judge others, lest you have to judge yourself!" types, so she didn't indoctrinate me to think that this was somehow worse than other "sins" that many Christians commit on a regular basis. So I never really was committed to being anti-gay. And then I found atheism, and the last "reason" to be anti-gay was no more.

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2. When did you first think seriously about same-sex marriage?
Actually, it was when I first started posting here and realized how those who oppose it really do have no case!

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3. If there was a change in your stance, when did it occur, and what provoked it?
No change, just confirmation that my instincts were right all along (I suspected there wasn't anything immoral about homosexuality even when I was a kid).
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Well we agree that gay marriage is something that should be kept out of the government and there is nothing wrong with it

With laws though, you have to legislate "morality" to some extent...... hence why some things should be and always will be illegal

The founding fathers believed in no moral law, except from the "God of nature", which is that killing people is bad, and hurting others to better yourself is bad.

But other then that, each man (and woman) should be left to their own devices.

Moral law, is not what the founding fathers had in mind.
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