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Old 09-10-2012, 07:19 AM
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Location: MA/NH
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You are 100% correct about the ongoing stupidity of the "lighter skinned" model of beauty....and again I think it's important to note whom is still pushing it through the media.
I'd just like to point out that lighter skinned people (blacks included) photograph better than people with really dark skin tones. And the same goes for bodyweight. Skinny people photograph better than overweight people. And a common phrase for decades is that "the camera adds 15 lbs". And so much of the media we encounter are pieces captured by a camera lens.

And I've posted this story before on C-D, but here it is again. I worked with a young man from Sudan, His skin was extremely dark toned. And he loved to show off his drivers license, because you could barely make out his features in his picture. He'd just laugh about it.

So in fashion, film and advertising, it's easier to take pictures, film and videos of good looking people when they are on the skinny side and also, in the case of black people, when they are lighter skinned. Also in fashion shots and runway work, the fabric does drape better on a skinny person. That skinny model is just a mannequin to showcase the clothing. Skinny models and store mannequins are easier to work with because every garment can fit on them. If it's way too big, then the extra fabric can be pinned in back. Lighter skin can always be made darker with layers of foundation makeup. And colours are easier to apply on lighter skin.

Then it becomes a vicious cycle when the public starts associating beauty=skinny and light skinned.
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:28 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Charges of racism are a one way street with Dems being immune.

Charges of racism have diminished any effort to suppress overt racism. The Dems have set racial relations back 200 years just for political advantage.

charges of racism have become a political tool that borrows the zero tolerance philosophy preached by consultants and socio-political activists who sell their diversity programs to corporations.

charges of racism have shackled our language and attacked our expression with convoluted theories arising daily that link just about any word to 'racism'.

Jimmy Carter claims O opponents racist;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur_AOWn70is





"MSNBC’s Carlos Watson introduced a segment on his show yesterday by wondering whether calling Obama a “socialist” was “becoming a code word, whether or not socialist is becoming the new n-word for some angry upset birthers and others.”"





Trumpka calls opponents racist -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QIGJTHdH50







"JournoList contributors discussed strategies to aid Mr. Obama by deflecting the controversy. They went public with a letter criticizing an ABC interview of Mr. Obama that dwelled on his association with Mr. Wright. Then, Spencer Ackerman of The Washington Independent proposed attacking Mr. Obama's critics as racists. He wrote:
"If the right forces us all to either defend Wright or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they've put upon us. Instead, take one of them—Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares—and call them racists. . . . This makes them 'sputter' with rage, which in turn leads to overreaction and self-destruction.""


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704684604575381083191313448.html
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Old 09-10-2012, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Holy sh%$!!! Socialism is a code word for ...SOCIALISM!

Damn fools
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Old 09-10-2012, 09:35 AM
 
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Wynternight may be trying to take some sort of higher road, I don't know for sure, but I'm not. Now I don't really care that much either way, but there definitely are people on this forum that have the type of thinking Wynternight is talking about. For you to imply there isn't a single poster on this forum that does is factually wrong. I guess I just don't like to see condescending, sarcastic self-righteousness coming from someone in repeated posts when they are in reality not right. It only took a single search to find them.

There were many examples in the post I linked to a few pages ago. Maybe you missed it - so here it is again.



In case it's too much trouble to follow the link above - here are the individual links from that link.

Dear President Obama, you scare me


Zimmermans wife is now arrested for perjury


Why do people hate Barack Obama?


Race relations: better pre or post Obama?


Race relations: better pre or post Obama?

Tea Party forces collapsed economy, Then blame Obama...


If It Were Bush, It Wouldn't Be Called An Arrogant "Victory Lap". It Would Be Called "Boosting Morale".


Republicans willing to watch this country go down in flames to prevent a black man from one success


Obama goes to Ireland to discover his white heritage
Wynternight is not taking the high road, they would not know the high road if they saw it. I asked them a simple question and they could not prove their claim. Guess what, neither did you, all the links were to the same poster and that poster was not calling any particular a racist they were makig the comment that many here simply hate the man because he is black, you know that is true, I know it is true and the readers here know that. W. stated that all lefties use the race card and do so all the time and the best you could come up with is one poster that was not calling them a racist. I see you at least tried but you were doomed in your mission to defend them from the beginning since W's tatement was False and remains False. If you can provided a dozen or so Different lefties calling people racists without the other person having made any racist comments we can discuss it further but until then you get a fail.
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Old 09-10-2012, 09:59 AM
 
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Ahhh, that did not take long, some here never disappoint. So, YOU claim people call others racist here all the time just for disagreeing with the President. So it should not be hard at all for you to link us all to say, half dozen posts where someone called you a racist with you ever making a racist comment to deserve it, if you cannot locate any for yourself you can, by all means, show where it has happened to others, should not take you long at all to produce your "evidence".

Now I will remind you that if you cannot come up with some good examples I will and others will not label you a racist for not being able to do it, but you may very well end up losing any credibility here along with being labeled as a Liar. We will wit to see how long it takes, 24 hours should be plenty of time. Better get to work

....

So let's see your "evidence" and we can discuss them, or don't and well ...........
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Wynternight is not taking the high road, they would not know the high road if they saw it. I asked them a simple question and they could not prove their claim. Guess what, neither did you, all the links were to the same poster and that poster was not calling any particular a racist they were makig the comment that many here simply hate the man because he is black, you know that is true, I know it is true and the readers here know that. W. stated that all lefties use the race card and do so all the time and the best you could come up with is one poster that was not calling them a racist. I see you at least tried but you were doomed in your mission to defend them from the beginning since W's tatement was False and remains False. If you can provided a dozen or so Different lefties calling people racists without the other person having made any racist comments we can discuss it further but until then you get a fail.
You are right, the first 5 were the same poster, but a couple of them contained quotes/responses from another like minded person - so that is two. There are 2 more in the bottom links, so that is four. What happened? you only clicked on the first 5? You asked for links. When they are provided, don't you even click on them before shooting them down? It seems like you may have already made up your mind before even bothering to read and analyze the responses. That isn't the most intellectually honest way to behave.

First you wanted a "half dozen posts." I gave you 9 from 4 different people after a 2 second search. Now you want 12 different people. Way to move the goalposts - that's a sure sign of honesty and good faith in a discussion (yes that is sarcasm). They are out there - that is my only point. You or I could spend 5 more minutes and find more to meet this modified goal, but you just don't seem to want to have an honest discussion using facts and I'm sure would find a way to move the goalposts again. I wasn't sure before, I only suspected it, but you just provided confirmation.
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Old 09-10-2012, 10:14 AM
 
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You are right, the first 5 were the same poster, but a couple of them contained quotes from another like minded person - so that is two. There are 2 more in the bottom links, so that is four. What happened? you only clicked on the first 5? You asked for links. When they are provided, don't you even click on them?

First you wanted a half dozen posts. I gave you 9 from 4 different people after a 2 second search. Now you want 12 different people. Way to move the goalposts - that's a sure sign of honesty and good faith in a discussion (yes that is sarcasm). They are out there - that is my only point. You or I could spend 5 more minutes and find more to meet this modified goal, but you just don't seem to want to have an honest discussion using facts and I'm sure would find a way to move the goalposts again. I wasn't sure before, I only suspected it, but you just provided confirmation.
Wrong again buckaroo, I did read them all and not one of them accused a particular poster of being a racist, they were talking in general and they are correct. The statement is that lefties call righties racists all the time without ever making a racist remark, I have yet see you provide even one case that proves that statment. THAT is your mission not people stating that they know many that dislike the President are racists, that is a known fact, so there was not moving of the goal posts as You claim. Strange I did not see you as coming off as wanting to discuss anything, looked more like you are one of those trying to defend the new cross so many want to claim they have to bear, psssst, no one is buying it. That would be strike 2, keep swinging or do yourself a favor and simple admit that Wynter was wrong or, more truthfully, Lieing.
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Old 09-10-2012, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Houston
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You are waisting your time, tyanger. The Cowboys will win a playoff game before you can educate a total idiot (no name mentioned).
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Old 09-10-2012, 10:26 AM
 
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Wrong again buckaroo, I did read them all and not one of them accused a particular poster of being a racist, they were talking in general and they are correct. The statement is that lefties call righties racists all the time without ever making a racist remark, I have yet see you provide even one case that proves that statment. THAT is your mission not people stating that they know many that dislike the President are racists, that is a known fact, so there was not moving of the goal posts as You claim. Strange I did not see you as coming off as wanting to discuss anything, looked more like you are one of those trying to defend the new cross so many want to claim they have to bear, psssst, no one is buying it. That would be strike 2, keep swinging or do yourself a favor and simple admit that Wynter was wrong or, more truthfully, Lieing.
I quoted you directly saying you want 6 examples - you were given more. Then in another direct quote you say the examples I gave you were all written by one person - there were 4 unique posters.

It makes me wonder if you even read your own posts. That's rhetorical, don't bother with a reply, I'll leave you with the last word if you want it.
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Old 09-10-2012, 11:48 AM
 
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You are waisting your time, tyanger. The Cowboys will win a playoff game before you can educate a total idiot (no name mentioned).
Speak for yourself.
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Old 09-10-2012, 12:02 PM
 
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I quoted you directly saying you want 6 examples - you were given more. Then in another direct quote you say the examples I gave you were all written by one person - there were 4 unique posters.

It makes me wonder if you even read your own posts. That's rhetorical, don't bother with a reply, I'll leave you with the last word if you want it.
One More Time: Wynternight said that all lefties called other posters, (including themself), here racists because they simply disagreed with his policies and that they do so all the time. I asked them to show where they or other posters had been called a racist because of what they said about is policies, W. refused to even try. You jumped in with links to people stating that there are racists here that simply hate the President because he is black, but not calling some particular poster themself a racist, that, if you do not know does not validate W's claim, meaning you failed and simply refuse to understand it or are not capable of understanding the basic question. Yes, that is my last word to you on the subject since we both know you could not, and did not, prove something that is not true, do not feel bad, no other rightie has ever been able to do when put on the spot to provided the proof. If you had been half as smart as you seem to believe yourself to be you would have paid closer attention to the claim made before jumping in and ending up looking foolish in the process. Have a Great Day
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