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Old 09-07-2012, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Question for pro-choice people.

Would it be okay for a mother to abort a child based on gender?

(For example, she only wanted a male child.)
Too abort on the base of gender (aborting female children...for cultural reasons) totally defeats the original purpose of free choice for woman- It looks like this issue has gotten complex...A woman's right to kill unborn woman? This is blow back that pro-choice and the feminist movement never envisioned...The right of a woman to have control over her female body...has now turned on itself.

I wonder what the original 70s feminist activists would say on the subject now? Imagine if the abortion issue had started at this point in time..and the original premise was to allow a woman to have the choice ONLY to abort female unborn? I doubt very much if the old activists would go for this- If what is taking place now took place then_ I would say that the pro-abortionists would have all been pro-life....IRONIC how it has developed into this.
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Old 09-07-2012, 08:21 PM
 
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It's kind of ironic how feminists think of abortion as being this great gift to women when in China it's responsible for gendercide against women. It's certainly a dilemma isn't it.
And they should eat all the food on their plates because a little girl in Africa is starving?
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Old 09-07-2012, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Too abort on the base of gender (aborting female children...for cultural reasons) totally defeats the original purpose of free choice for woman- It looks like this issue has gotten complex...A woman's right to kill unborn woman? This is blow back that pro-choice and the feminist movement never envisioned...The right of a woman to have control over her female body...has now turned on itself.

I wonder what the original 70s feminist activists would say on the subject now? Imagine if the abortion issue had started at this point in time..and the original premise was to allow a woman to have the choice ONLY to abort female unborn? I doubt very much if the old activists would go for this- If what is taking place now took place then_ I would say that the pro-abortionists would have all been pro-life....IRONIC how it has developed into this.
Why should I give up my rights because some other person or country abuses that right?

Many people abuse the right to own a gun......do you think that is a good reason for us to take your right to own a gun away?
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Old 09-07-2012, 08:52 PM
 
Location: The heart of Cascadia
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And they should eat all the food on their plates because a little girl in Africa is starving?
What I'm saying is this cultural phenomenon doesn't limit itself to China and India. It's happening in Canada and it's probably happening in the USA too.
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Old 09-07-2012, 08:59 PM
 
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Too abort on the base of gender (aborting female children...for cultural reasons) totally defeats the original purpose of free choice for woman- It looks like this issue has gotten complex...A woman's right to kill unborn woman? This is blow back that pro-choice and the feminist movement never envisioned...The right of a woman to have control over her female body...has now turned on itself.

I wonder what the original 70s feminist activists would say on the subject now? Imagine if the abortion issue had started at this point in time..and the original premise was to allow a woman to have the choice ONLY to abort female unborn? I doubt very much if the old activists would go for this- If what is taking place now took place then_ I would say that the pro-abortionists would have all been pro-life....IRONIC how it has developed into this.
Pro-Choice is NOT pro-abortion.

Since you imply that you are Pro-Life, do you favor life in prison or capital punishment?

p.s. The first word in your first sentence in your first paragraph should be "To".....the word "too" means ....
too (t)adv.1. In addition; also: He's coming along too.
2. More than enough; excessively: She worries too much.
3. To a regrettable degree: My error was all too apparent.
4. Very; extremely; immensely: He's only too willing to be of service.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/too
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Old 09-07-2012, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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It's kind of ironic how feminists think of abortion as being this great gift to women when in China it's responsible for gendercide against women. It's certainly a dilemma isn't it.
Often enough, it's the decision of the mother to abort a daughter for the reason that it's assumed a son will make your family more money. Additionally, I think that most feminists were and are aware that if a woman gets pregnant, there is a chance that she will have a girl, who is born to a woman. I don't think that this is creating the sort of moral or philosophical dilemma that you seem to think it is.
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Old 09-07-2012, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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It's kind of ironic how feminists think of abortion as being this great gift to women when in China it's responsible for gendercide against women. It's certainly a dilemma isn't it.
I dislike the idea of a woman being forced to either have or not have an abortion.
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Old 09-07-2012, 09:09 PM
 
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What I'm saying is this cultural phenomenon doesn't limit itself to China and India. It's happening in Canada and it's probably happening in the USA too.
Maybe, but the joke was about the relevance of that claim.

But if the cultures of other countries are relevant: the U.S. incarcerates more people than any other country, including China and Russia, both of whom are blatant civil rights violators. Why are you talking about a topic that doesn't have clear Biblical support, has been controversial forever, and on which the Supreme Court produced a very good ruling that is a very reasonable compromise when we're less free than China or Russia?

Jesus said that a kingdom divided will fall. Roe v Wade is a perfect compromise. Why don't you take on a more relevant issue? What about infant genital mutilation, circumcision? You'd like to help babies; there's your issue.
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Old 09-07-2012, 09:11 PM
 
Location: The Nanny State of MD
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Why should I give up my rights because some other person or country abuses that right?

Many people abuse the right to own a gun......do you think that is a good reason for us to take your right to own a gun away?
Abortion is not a right. The Right to Bear arms is well... speaks for itself really. So you can't really compare the two.
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Old 09-07-2012, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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Abortion is not a right. The Right to Bear arms is well... speaks for itself really. So you can't really compare the two.
The constitution begs to differ.
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