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I've said it before. Immigrants are simply reacting to what they see around them and on TV. If you've had any meaningful interaction with urban African- American youth in a public settings there's a good chance it wasn't pleasant. The adults are marginally better.
For some reason African- American posters here are in big denial about how other Americans perceive them and why. Many seem to think White folks are somehow telling new immigrants not to like Blacks or that new immigrants are leery of Blacks because of Whites.
Here in the DC area, Immigrants have been avoiding the Black areas of town like the plague and are concentrated in Northern Virginia and Montgomery County, mostly white areas at least they used to be. The majority Black county in the DC area is the only one where school enrollment dropped and the few immigrants who make it out there live in little enclaves.
The denial from African- Americans about their own community is astonishing. I can't think of any reputable culture that would be satisfied being known for murder, violence, illegitmacy and lack of education.
Their reflexive focus on Whites is pathetic. Get a culture, raise your families, go to work, teach your kids how to act in school and maybe folks will not be leery of you.
It's hard not to agree with you on this, because I witness it first hand. I witness our denial of what a large segment of our own race has become. Unfortunately, there are far too many blacks involved a culture that celebrates the degradation of women, the primitive savagery of men, and promotion of a campaign of "not snitching" on the crime and violence that pervades many of our communities. I've been cautious about expressing the same sentiment for fear of fueling the ignorance of the forum bigots, but who can blame the rest of the world for their perception of us when too many of us want to be viewed as hardcore, as thugs, as people you should be scared of?
10. Stop lowering passing grades because blacks can't pass the current tests.
11. Stop implementing racial quota's because blacks can't qualify without them.
Maybe immigrants would start respecting blacks if they found blacks part of society rather than parasites on society who use every excuse under the Sun on why they can't get ahead...
12) Get young blacks to listen to BB King, Chuck Berry, Marvin Gaye, Aretha Franklin, Luther Vandross, Miles Davis and other great black musicians instead of this talentless crackhouse garbage they are getting these days
It's hard not to agree with you on this, because I witness it first hand. I witness our denial of what a large segment of our own race has become. Unfortunately, there are far too many blacks involved a culture that celebrates the degradation of women, the primitive savagery of men, and promotion of a campaign of "not snitching" on the crime and violence that pervades many of our communities. I've been cautious about expressing the same sentiment for fear of fueling the ignorance of the forum bigots, but who can blame the rest of the world for their perception of us when too many of us want to be viewed as hardcore, as thugs, as people you should be scared of?
I applaud you for this post...... and what you say is EXACTLY why they need leaders like yourself to get involved and get the message out. Strong and intelligent folks who can lead no matter how involved you can get or how much time you can give
Is this simply a race issue or a class issue? I have been to Northern Virginia and it isn't like the upper class areas are all Whites and immigrants. You can't really "avoid blacks like the plague" in the DC area, but you can avoid poor blacks. By the way it isn't like Asian neighborhoods are just the best. Ever been to Chinatown in a major urban area like Boston or New York? It isn't like it is some sort of urban utopia where everything is new, clean, safe and state of the art. Also places called "little Africa", "little Havana", and "little Italy" aren't always the best neighborhoods either.
Who said anything about Asians having the best neighborhoods? Why do the African American posters get defensive when confronted with legitimate criticisms of their failing communities and seek to deflect criticism? However since you bring it up yes I've been to Chinatown in NYC, lived in NYC for 7 years. Do you know Chinatown is about as poor maybe even poorer than Harlem? Do you know that one of the best elementary schools in the city is located in Chinatown and students from wealthier areas of the cities try hard to get in?
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If immigrants have a negative perception of African-Americans, they have the same one of you. If you want to take the time out to prove to them that you do not fit their stereotypical view of people your complexion, that is on you. I choose not to waste my time with people who are so narrow-minded that they can't get past skin color.
They may or may not. The difference between Africans and African-Americans is that we are too busy trying to make it in America to worry too much about what others think of us. However I must tell you more and more non-Black people are acutely aware of th differences between Africans and African-Americans.
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I find it amusing how people think that they can talk about other races of people to people that aren't part of that race. I have heard Whites talk bad about Mexicans, Asians and African immigrants. I have heard Asians and Latinos talk bad about Whites and Blacks talk bad about Arabs and Latinos. I cringe when I hear it from anyone and it also lets me know that they will do it about my race as well. It is even worse when people are amongst the same race. You can blame black people all day, but racism is the problem not the solution. Discriminating then saying it is okay because some black people are bad isn't going to solve the problem.
Maybe we need to be clear about what discriminating means. If you mean denying someone opportunities in employment, housing etc. merely based on race than of course that is wrong.
However I think people are well within their rights to be leery of a group of people if all they've seen from them is utter rudeness, classless and a higher propensity to violence. It's human nature and that isn't going to change anytime soon.
I was talking to a group of black friends about racism and discrimination and they told me something interesting. The popular perception is that most of the negative reaction towards black people is from racist White people. They say this is not true. Instead, the worst racism is from other people of color. Dark Skinned Blacks are openly discriminated against by light skinned blacks but perhaps the most racist group is Asian immigrants. They were never taught to be politically correct or sensitive and racism is quite common in their old countries. As more and more of American population comes from Asia and the Middle East African Americans will experience more racism that is quite blantent and extreme.
What can be done about immigrants who treat African Americans with contempt?
In my opinion the door should have been shut after 12,000,000 + flooded the USA in the past 10 years.
Immigration should be extremely limited.
It's the only way that their culture can be properly assimilated into the American way.
I have pointed this out and argued, yes. White supremacy has killed black self-concept in Latin America. Still, many of us Afrodescendants south of the Rio Grande maintain pride in our African roots.
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