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Old 09-11-2012, 10:29 AM
 
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Or do you just hate some of the things that he did? If so. Why?
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I don't hate GW Bush. I just consider him incompetent to be an executive of any kind. He does not seem to have the mindset or skills required. That is not his fault. Apparently he did not have enough sense to realize he could not do the job of being President of the United States

I do regret the damage he allowed his assistants to do to this country and its economy. It will take a long time to recover from the excesses of two unnecessary wars. I hope he is enjoying his retirement.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Or do you just hate some of the things that he did? If so. Why?
Don't hate him, disagreed with much of what he did, even though I did vote for him in his re-election bid.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I don't hate GW Bush. I just consider him incompetent to be an executive of any kind. He does not seem to have the mindset or skills required. That is not his fault. Apparently he did not have enough sense to realize he could not do the job of being President of the United States

I do regret the damage he allowed his assistants to do to this country and its economy. It will take a long time to recover from the excesses of two unnecessary wars. I hope he is enjoying his retirement.
Well said. He was too incompetent to be hated, he knows not what he did. He probably didn't even want to be President, but it was pushed on him.

He was only meant to appear personable and relatable to the fearful and religious public in a time of utter chaos. He was the amicable and "average Joe" face of an administration that worked completely behind the scenes. He was also the precursor to Obama, a total opposite in physical appearance and the media's image of them, which allows for policy to remain unchanged, while the mass majority are illusioned into thinking things have changed. This also gives Dems a clear and easy scapegoat when they realize that nothing is changing under Obama yet at the same time giving Repubs a clear and easy scapegoat when they realize how bad things continue to get.

Now, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld on the other hand

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Old 09-11-2012, 10:46 AM
 
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I don't hate him either. I was very angry with the way his administration got us into the Iraq war. I cringed most of the time I heard him speak. I do think he tried to do a good job when he wasn't on vacation, but I don't think he was a competent POTUS. His choice for VP was a disaster. When I think of the Bush years, I am reminded of how we first began to lose our civil rights and right to privacy, which the current administration has seen fit to continue.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:49 AM
 
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Although I voted for Gore, I was glad we had Bush in office 9/11/01. Gore would have done .

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Old 09-11-2012, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Although I voted for Gore, I was glad we had Bush in office 9/11/01. Gore would have done .
That is the paradox. We are not offered any viable alternatives for President.

If Kerry had won in 2004, nothing would have changed. He had some of the most money tied up in defense corporations out of any politician in Congress. He was looking to get rich off our endless war on terror, as most are. Obama/Romney 2012 is the same thing-we have no real option.

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Old 09-11-2012, 11:10 AM
 
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That is the paradox. We are not offered any viable alternatives for President.

If Kerry had won in 2004, nothing would have changed. He had some of the most money tied up in defense corporations out of any politician in Congress. He was looking to get rich off our endless war on terror, as most are. Obama/Romney 2012 is the same thing-we have no real option.
Yes. Don't mean to state the obvious here, but you need deep pockets and strong political ties to make a run. So we end up voting for whomever we feel is the less corrupt of the two. And I don't see it changing in the near future.
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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I don't hate GW Bush. I just consider him incompetent to be an executive of any kind. He does not seem to have the mindset or skills required. That is not his fault. Apparently he did not have enough sense to realize he could not do the job of being President of the United States

I do regret the damage he allowed his assistants to do to this country and its economy. It will take a long time to recover from the excesses of two unnecessary wars. I hope he is enjoying his retirement.
I second this post. It is sad to see someone who does not know enough to know that they don't know. And that is surprisingly common. I think Jeb inherited George Sr's brains and Shrub inherited Barbara's bluster.
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:20 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Well said. He was too incompetent to be hated, he knows not what he did. He probably didn't even want to be President, but it was pushed on him.

He was only meant to appear personable and relatable to the fearful and religious public in a time of utter chaos. He was the amicable and "average Joe" face of an administration that worked completely behind the scenes. He was also the precursor to Obama, a total opposite in physical appearance and the media's image of them, which allows for policy to remain unchanged, while the mass majority are illusioned into thinking things have changed. This also gives Dems a clear and easy scapegoat when they realize that nothing is changing under Obama yet at the same time giving Repubs a clear and easy scapegoat when they realize how bad things continue to get.

Now, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld on the other hand

Well said.

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Yes. Don't mean to state the obvious here, but you need deep pockets and strong political ties to make a run. So we end up voting for whomever we feel is the less corrupt of the two. And I don't see it changing in the near future.

Unfortunately this is true. I wish people would stop with "I'm voting for the lesser of two evils" crap!
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