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Old 09-21-2012, 05:15 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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How many of the warnings to Bush said anything about where, when or by whom. He seems to have been wrong because he did nothing not knowing where the attack would take place.

Now the Obama government was told that it would be in Libya at least 3 days before the attack came. Our intelligence people knew that the eventual site of the murders was the hottest spot of terrorist activity and that should have been easy to do something about. All of Libya is so much smaller that the US and that would have made it easier. If the ambassador had been told about an imminent attack he could have headed back to Tripoli. I don't think you have looked at any of these things very closely
Wow, Roy, you get intelligence briefings and know exactly what the White House was told and when they get the so-called information? I'm so impressed with your security clearance.
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:15 PM
 
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Sure they did. They escorted him downtown for questioning.



Anti-Islam Video Protests Live Blog - Al Jazeera Blogs
You know very well that he was "called in" regarding whether or not he had violated conditions of his probation. His "going downtown for questioning" had nothing to do with the movie other than whether or not he had violated the conditions of his parole.....one condition being that he was not allowed to use the internet for five years without permission from parole officer. Even though roys implied that the President had him called in for questioning, that's NOT TRUE. His probation officer called him in for an interview.

From what I read, after the interview, he was actually provided a "secret" release so that the media could not follow him, and that he is now in hiding, as he did not return to his home where he was originally picked up.
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:21 PM
 
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Gollllllly the next forum English checker has taken over. Nice means of deflection.
See? You can take something like that and turn it into a negative motive. "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." (Freud) Although such a pessimistic world view could be a problem.
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Have you thought about the economy that The One will inherit if he wins in November. He has talked about the economic mess he inherited and now he would have to blame himself for 4 years just as he has blamed Bush all this time. I really don't think there are any leaners here who have thought about that yet.
Certainly unprecedented!
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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You are missing the point...Hillary has a right to call it disgusting, but she also has a responsibility to the American's and free speech to condemn what the extremists did....I mean REALLY? You are unable to grasp that? Of course she has a right, anyone does, but to stand up there and adimately disregard the lives and the families of those who lost a life, is a disgrace and disgusting, she totally said to the extremists/murders, that "it's ok to murder someone, b/c YOU disagree with words". How utterly tolitarian of her.


As Secretary of State, she must not endorse one religion or reject another, but this is effectively what the Administration has done by forcefully condemning this film, even going so far as to spend $70,000 US tax payer dollars to run a television ad in Pakistan to expresses official US disapproval of the film, yet without also condemning "**** Christ" set to go on display in NYC Thursday.

Marooned In Marin: Double Standard: Obama Regime Won't Denounce "**** Christ" Display But Apologizes For Attacks On Islam
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Sad thing is the President, the Secretary of State and the US Ambassador to the UN,
LIED to all of us.
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:47 PM
 
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Other countries genuinely and literally do not understand that the US government was powerless to stop the video... they do not grasp that the US government does not regulate speech unless there is clear and immediate danger -- "shouting fire in a crowded room." I don't think Americans understand this -- even other Western countries don't perceive "free speech" the same way we do, let alone the Arab world.

Thus radicals are blaming the government for the video and killing our ambassadors. They need to communicate that the US did not create or condone the video.
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:48 PM
 
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As Secretary of State, she must not endorse one religion or reject another, but this is effectively what the Administration has done by forcefully condemning this film, even going so far as to spend $70,000 US tax payer dollars to run a television ad in Pakistan to expresses official US disapproval of the film, yet without also condemning "**** Christ" set to go on display in NYC Thursday.

Marooned In Marin: Double Standard: Obama Regime Won't Denounce "**** Christ" Display But Apologizes For Attacks On Islam
If $70,000 prevents another American ambassador from being killed, is it money well spent? I would think so.
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Old 09-22-2012, 02:23 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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How many of the warnings to Bush said anything about where, when or by whom. He seems to have been wrong because he did nothing not knowing where the attack would take place.

Now the Obama government was told that it would be in Libya at least 3 days before the attack came. Our intelligence people knew that the eventual site of the murders was the hottest spot of terrorist activity and that should have been easy to do something about. All of Libya is so much smaller that the US and that would have made it easier. If the ambassador had been told about an imminent attack he could have headed back to Tripoli. I don't think you have looked at any of these things very closely
I beg your pardon sir, I believe you are misinformed.


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Old 09-22-2012, 02:32 AM
 
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Do you have a link to this speech? I think she also said that the film makers had every right to make the movie according to our 1st Amendment (in so many words).

As far as guarding embassies and consolates; are there enough Marines in the corp to guard all of the embassies we have around the world? Isn't that why we rely upon natives for much of the security?
I wonder what the reaction of the OP would be if all the Muslim countries who have embassies in the U.S. brought in huge military contingent to guard them?
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