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Old 09-22-2012, 10:21 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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Pretty much every kind of extreme weather, including cold weather ironically enough, is cited in the news as being a result of global warming. Is this kind of hysteria warranted?

It seems like global warming is literally treated like the end of the world. I think the environmental crisis civilization has created is certainly an issue, but is global warming so dangerous that we should treat it like impending Doomsday?
Really? What environmental "crisis"?

Have you ever heard anyone outside of the political fringe left talk about such a "crisis"?.......Ever?

We have a crisis, alright, but it's a group think crisis wherein millions upon millions wouldn't dream of challenging that which they have been programmed from birth to think.

 
Old 09-22-2012, 10:26 AM
 
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......... wherein millions upon millions wouldn't dream of challenging that which they have been programmed from birth to think.
Bingo, these kids have grown up hearing this day in and day out. For a lot of them it's inconceivable to think otherwise.
 
Old 09-22-2012, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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The scientific community has turned this into a political football.
How so? Are we still talking about a few scientist in Britain? I am a scientist, and I can assure you most of us just want to understand what is going on. Atmospheric predictions have tremendous potential consequences and are very heavy duty science. They are not bull****ting material. But of course in the current environment, everything needs to be filtered through politics. History will judge us harshly for being to stupidly ideological. We already tried the dark ages once.
 
Old 09-23-2012, 06:18 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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How so? Are we still talking about a few scientist in Britain? I am a scientist, and I can assure you most of us just want to understand what is going on. Atmospheric predictions have tremendous potential consequences and are very heavy duty science. They are not bull****ting material. But of course in the current environment, everything needs to be filtered through politics. History will judge us harshly for being to stupidly ideological. We already tried the dark ages once.
You do understand, don't you, that most of us agree with that sentiment?
 
Old 09-23-2012, 06:29 AM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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The whole issue doesn't matter - nobody will get out alive in this world.
 
Old 09-23-2012, 06:54 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Earth's climate and structure are changing. The planet, Like man evolves either on it's own or due to man's influence or an act of nature.
 
Old 09-23-2012, 07:06 AM
 
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Much science is funded by government, and science grants are like a massive welfare scheme for scientists who cannot secure employment or funding in the private sector. The science-industrial complex seeks to propagate and expand, just like any other cancer.

As a result, they tend to attract statists and collectivists to their ranks, and they seek to "procreate" by manufacturing crisis after crisis, to assure future funding forever.

Climate change is the biggest hustle in scientific history. However, more crises lurk in the near future. And all will require more "study", and above all, public funding. It's all about the money with climate change advocates. The truth? Irrelevant. Just follow the money, and you will have the only truth they seek: Eternal science welfare grants.
 
Old 09-23-2012, 07:07 AM
 
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It really doesn't matter. We have passed the point of no return now so many times that I figure I should quit worrying about it.

Exactly! How many times do we need to be reminded? Any 3rd grader could do a little research and find that there were BAD storms before 1980. Then they could go to class and teach their "teacher" something!
We have much more weather/climate data now than in 200BC, 1300, 1900 or 1950. More data means more data manipulation.
 
Old 09-23-2012, 07:23 AM
 
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Global warming, if it exists, will be a good thing. More land will become arable in the warmer and stormier environment. Rising sea levels will cause us to have to rebuild our cities inland on higher ground. Most cities are ill-equipped to even handle a decent earthquake, so rebuilding can take that and higher wind speeds into account. This will create millions and millions of new jobs for at least a century or two.
Global warming, if it exists, could present a huge opportunity to make lemonade out of lemons. Some island peoples will have to relocate, but that is not a biggie. More opportunity for them in the huge new economies that will need more workers.

Overall, if it exists at all, global warming can be a good thing. The biggest problem? It will end pretty soon after it begins. Within 300 years all fossil fuels will be exhausted, and the bonus CO2 that we will be enjoying will be gone. But we can cross that bridge when we get there.

For now, treat it like a gift. And begin to envision magnificent new cities that can withstand hurricanes and earthquakes, and an end to the world food shortage, as more of the Earth is warmer and wetter and able to support more intensive agriculture.
 
Old 09-23-2012, 11:13 AM
 
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Pretty much every kind of extreme weather, including cold weather ironically enough, is cited in the news as being a result of global warming. Is this kind of hysteria warranted?

It seems like global warming is literally treated like the end of the world. I think the environmental crisis civilization has created is certainly an issue, but is global warming so dangerous that we should treat it like impending Doomsday?
Oh yes, Global Warming is real! Doomsday is real!

I have a friend who works in Area 51 where they coordinate with the secret government chemical spraying by various jet aircraft all over the world and ozone destroying transmissions from HAARP.

THEY are preparing this planet via chemtrails and geoengineering for the arrival of our Masters from Obligon73.

All one has to do is look out their window to see the chemicals being sprayed:



And the deadly results of the HAARP ttransmissions:


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