Another alternative energy manufacturer bites the dust. (generations, Minnesota, dollar)
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Experience is a pretty important thing that some in DC near the White House are very short on. The Germans learn fast but our leaders don't see anything to learn from. Ain't it something?
Our leaders to solve the problems that THEY created are usually to throw more money at em to make them worse and then claim they are the only ones who know how to solve the even worse problem. It's madness.
I'm not trying to convince anyone to vote for Romney. Also Bush isn't running and hasn't since '04. Did you realize that or were you just trying to deflect the topic of this thread which was about Obama's economic policies??
Call it what people will, (deflecton) but the bankruptcy filings of the alternative energy companies are a drop in the bucket compared to the trillions of dollars squandered fighting a war or wars with nonsensical meaning.
Do a search for yourselves, and find out who is really and truly responsible for the debt/deficit and quit deflecting to Obama.
Wall street and big banks were instrumental in the downward spiral we have experienced, much like it did in the great depression, history has a nasty reputation of repeating itself.
We've been subsidizing solar since the Carter administration.
As well as oil companies and clean air (also know as carbon credits) to coal fired electric power generation plants, and the ethanol industry among many others.
It's all a form of government welfare to energy commodity producers. Which is ok to the righties, but then they scream about ordinary, everyday Americans receiving help through social programs like food stamps, unemployment insurance and so on.
The reason why righties pick at alternative energy sources and policies is because of their neanderthal attitudes of money making schemes for use of fossil fuels, they don't want anything to happen to their highly profitable golden geese.
I was kinda hoping Bachman would have stayed in the race, I was hoping for $2.00 a gallon gasoline!
I had forgotten about those fools who think using all kinds of wind farms will still the wind. Thanks for reminding me just how stupid some people can be.
Perhaps the best location for all these wind farms is where the wind constantly blows.....
As well as oil companies and clean air (also know as carbon credits) to coal fired electric power generation plants, and the ethanol industry among many others.
Any idea what the per unit of production on those subsidies are? I know what they, impress me and educate everyone else.
It's not carbon credits FYI but cap and trade has been used to limit pollutants.....and please let's not try and spin cap and trade off as a subsidy. LOL.
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Almost forgot, the subsidy for ethanol has been removed but since the mandate remains in place that's irrelevant. thse mandates reamin in place for solar and wind at the state level across the country as well. Must be nice having a guaranteed market. yes?
Any idea what the per unit of production on those subsidies are? I know what they, impress me and educate everyone else.
It's not carbon credits FYI but cap and trade has been used to limit pollutants.....and please let's not try and spin cap and trade off as a subsidy. LOL.
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Almost forgot, the subsidy for ethanol has been removed but since the mandate remains in place that's irrelevant. thse mandates reamin in place for solar and wind at the state level across the country as well. Must be nice having a guaranteed market. yes?
Cap and trade is a subsidy though, some people define it as not being, but it really is. And, cap and trade has been going on for a long time, it's nothing new.
A subsidy is assistance paid to a business or economic sector or producers. Most subsidies are made by the government to producers or distributed as subventions in an industry to prevent the decline of that industry
Cap and trade is a subsidy though, some people define it as not being, but it really is.
The "cap" part requires significant investment in pollution controls, at the very best it's a tradeoff for some companies who are able to sell their credits and recoup those costs. Those credits are sold to other companies who are unable to get under the cap.
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And, cap and trade has been going on for a long time, it's nothing new.
Yes but not for Carbon in the US. Cap and trade was implemented for other pollutants years ago.
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