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Old 09-26-2012, 10:10 AM
 
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Yet, it does not meet the true definition.
It is a label placed on society, to sway views of the act, to be bad. Just like Welfare was placed on public assistance, to make it all feel good.

It is social engineering and you don't even realize it! It is a Progressive Socialist idea and implemented into law.
rape

1    [reyp] Show IPA noun, verb, raped, rap·ing.
noun 1. the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.

2. any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.

3. an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation: the rape of the countryside.

4. Archaic . the act of seizing and carrying off by force.


verb (used with object)
5. to force to have sexual intercourse.

6. to plunder (a place); despoil.

7. to seize, take, or carry off by force.


verb (used without object) 8. to commit rape.



Origin:
1250–1300; (v.) Middle English rapen < Anglo-French raper < Latin rapere to seize, carry off by force, plunder; (noun) Middle English < Anglo-French ra ( a ) p ( e ), derivative of raper
And in Mississippi, the article that I linked to, the crime the rapist committed was statutory rape. Because five year olds are defined by the state as unable to consent. That's not social engineering. If someone cannot consent to sexual relations, then any sexual relations they have are by definition coercive. Whether the rapist or the victim says there was consent, by law, consent is not present.

http://www.fox40tv.com/news/local/st...x4Ghg85xQ.cspx
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:20 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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A 14 yo and a 17 yo.... Both minors at the time.

She now 17 and he is 20.

I'm sure after all the broohah, and the beat down she has had from her parents, she does hate the guy, for planting his seed.
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:24 AM
 
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So a 14 and a 15 yo, are having sex, for years. One turns 18 and the other turns 17.... All the sudden it is a crime.
nope it's different if he's 23 and she's 17 though then yes it is
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:26 AM
 
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A 14 yo and a 17 yo.... Both minors at the time.

She now 17 and he is 20.

I'm sure after all the broohah, and the beat down she has had from her parents, she does hate the guy, for planting his seed.
You might want to work on your reading comprehension. He was 20, she was 14. Now she's 17, and he's 23. And it's only now that he's being asked to fork over money. Which means he could be thinking, since I have to pay I want to be involved in this child's life. Or could mean that he's thinking, if I have to pay, I'm going to make this girl's life a living nightmare. We don't know what his motivation is. What we do know is that he committed a crime. The child is the product of that crime. And that in some states, when he pleaded guilty to statutory rape, his parental rights would have automatically been terminated. Unfortunately, Massachusetts isn't one of those states.
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:39 AM
 
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Will he be paying child support?
If so, then yes, he should be able to see his blood child.

Sounds like he wants to step up and take care of his child.
That would be forcing the mother, the victim of a crime, to have to be in contact with her rapist. He should have zero rights and the decision should be left up to the child when adulthood is reached.
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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You might want to work on your reading comprehension. He was 20, she was 14. Now she's 17, and he's 23. And it's only now that he's being asked to fork over money. Which means he could be thinking, since I have to pay I want to be involved in this child's life. Or could mean that he's thinking, if I have to pay, I'm going to make this girl's life a living nightmare. We don't know what his motivation is. What we do know is that he committed a crime. The child is the product of that crime. And that in some states, when he pleaded guilty to statutory rape, his parental rights would have automatically been terminated. Unfortunately, Massachusetts isn't one of those states.
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The teen mother was raped by the 20-year-old family friend three years ago
She is still a teen - fourTEEN then, sevenTEEN now. He was sevenTEEN then, twenty now.
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:57 AM
 
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Rape is a label that has been placed on this, to make it sound dirty and wrong.
As is when the 30yo. lady, has a gang bang with the school football team.

Rape is a forceful act.

An age has been placed by government on the age of consent, the age you actually become an adult, the age you can work, the age you can die for your nation, an age you can drink......

Nothing to account for the maturity or lack of. I trust my 15 yo. daughter, to make better choices than the majority of posters here on this message board. Government has become the parent.
Guess most of you don't know, what a shotgun wedding is.........
Just because you trust your 15yo daughter that does not excuse someone from raping her. You have no problem with a 20yo family friend raping your daughter? I guess I do. Rape is a "dirty word" because it is a sick thing to do. Shotgun wedding does not excuse the act like you are doing.
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Statutory rape is rape of a minor. It is not rape of a consenting minor.
Yes, it is. From the link I posted earlier.

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Statutory Rape Statutory rape consists of sexual intercourse with a minor, defined in most states as someone who is under age 18 or 16 (depending on the state) at the time intercourse takes place. The minor's outward consent to intercourse is irrelevant.
Statutory rape assumes some form of consensual sexual relationship.

Wiki also does a good job of explaining it.

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The term "statutory rape" is used in some legal jurisdictions to refer to sexual activities in which one person is below the age required to legally consent to the behavior.[1] Although it usually refers to adults engaging in sex with minors under the age of consent,[1] it is a generic term, and very few jurisdictions use the actual term "statutory rape" in the language of statutes.[2] Different jurisdictions use many different statutory terms for the crime, such as "sexual assault", "rape of a child", "corruption of a minor", "carnal knowledge of a minor", "unlawful carnal knowledge", or simply "carnal knowledge". In statutory rape, overt force or threat need not be present. The laws presume coercion, because a minor or mentally challenged adult is legally incapable of giving consent to the act.
The term "statutory rape" generally refers to sex between an adult and a sexually mature minor past the age of puberty. Sexual relations with a prepubescent child, generically called "child molestation", is typically treated as a more serious crime.
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So the deal agreement of pleading guilty to statutory rape does not imply in any way that the victims consented. Minors cannot consent. But just to emphasize that statutory rape ONLY means rape of a minor...
Not true. Suspects can be charged with forcible rape (first/second/third degree) if force is used, no matter what the age of the victim.
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:29 AM
 
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she is still a teen - fourteen then, seventeen now. He was seventeen then, twenty now.
he was twenty, then, he's twenty-three now.
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:31 AM
 
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Yes, it is. From the link I posted earlier.



Statutory rape assumes some form of consensual sexual relationship.

Wiki also does a good job of explaining it.



Not true. Suspects can be charged with forcible rape (first/second/third degree) if force is used, no matter what the age of the victim.
Statutory rape does not assume there is any form of consent involved. Consent is irrelevant.

Statutory rape is sex with someone who the state by law defines as unable to consent.

Hence the man who raped a five-year old being charged with statutory rape. Do you really think that anyone assumed that the five year old consented in any capacity?

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