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Old 09-27-2012, 09:21 AM
 
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Obama was picked to speak at the 2004 convention because the Democratic party wanted the Illinois Senate seat.

Obama's campaign team out performed the Hillary's team. Hillary's team assumed they wouldn't have to compete in Iowa (,quasi home base for Obama) and didn't have to run a 50 state campaign. They incorrectly assumed that they could focus on winning Super Tuesday and that here superior name recognition would take care of the rest. It was too late by the time they determined that there strategy wasn't going to work. They didn't have a nationwide organization in place.

Obama's team on the other hand used his success at the 2004 convention to cement relationships around the country by campaigning for lots of candidates in 2006. They also used the time to build a nationwide organization.
Obama was winning his Senate election big with or with out the speech.

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Old 09-27-2012, 09:36 AM
 
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The Tea Party and Birthers would be non-existant.
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Obama was winning his Senate election big with or with out the speech.

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Well if the Republicans had selected Alan Keyes before the Convention, I suppose it could have been argued that an Obama speech would be viewed as piling on. I still maintain that it was because Obama was running for the U.S. Senate that he was considered for the keynote spot. If he had just been an Illinois State Senator, white or black, he would not have been considered.
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Old 09-27-2012, 10:18 AM
 
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He would be Jimmy Carter, part II.
Great point. Both great intellectuals with no ability to act.


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Personally, I think a convicted felon could have won over McCain in 2008. Here the country was involved in the disastrous Iraq expedition, the economy was imploding, and the Republicans offer up a tired, inarticulate man with a paucity of new ideas.
I used to say Mickey Mouse would have won over Republicans tainted by eight years of Bush administration.

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However, what they got was an empty symbol wholly unequipped for the job. Someone with no executive experience, someone who hadn't even served a full Senate term, someone who really put together a really expensive and, yet, poorly-executed economic stimulus while blowing all his political capital on ramrodding a poorly-conceived and highly-convoluted health care plan down everybody's throats, even though the majority of Americans didn't want it. He signed into law Dodd Frank which essentially has throttled lending, and added tons of new regulations. So here we are with an enormous deficit, the Middle East is once again in flames, the unemployment rate is seemingly intractable, and businesses are loathe to hire because they have no idea what fresh hell will be served up next in Washington.

I mean, Bush was a terrible president. But, with the exception of not actually invading a country without casus belli, Obama is proving his equal. The man doesn't seem to understand economics or finance, he doesn't seem to understand business, and he doesn't seem to understand the middle class.
Yeah. Obama is way to ideological to be a president. Presidents should be pragmatists.
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Old 09-27-2012, 10:19 AM
 
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Well if the Republicans had selected Alan Keyes before the Convention, I suppose it could have been argued that an Obama speech would be viewed as piling on. I still maintain that it was because Obama was running for the U.S. Senate that he was considered for the keynote spot. If he had just been an Illinois State Senator, white or black, he would not have been considered.
it was because of the fact that the dems already targeted that piece of garbage for the white house.

I can give you a few different media outlets that openly mentioned him for president after not serving a day in office.


no matter who the Republicans picked the democrats would have won that seat. If they wanted to pick someone to win a Senate seat they should have picked one of Tony Knowles, Betty Castor, Daniel Mongiardo, Joe Hoeffel, Tom Daschle, Erskine Bowles.
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Old 09-27-2012, 10:23 AM
 
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What if any of the first 43 presidents had been black? Would they have been elected?
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:47 PM
 
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Well, Obama is white. Half. But the racists are focused on his black half. What would the impact be if people, most people thought he was "white"? Probably 75% of the hateful posts on this forum would disappear.
You are absolutely right! All the White racists see Obama as a Black liar, and all the Black racists see him as a White liar. the one thing all racists have in common is they see Obama as a liar.

But it IS Obama himself that has increase racism in America single handedly to be far more than it was in even 1964.

I once had 'Hope' that the USA would some how get past racism, but i see now it isn't very likely. All that has been done so far is prove ever white and every black and everyone else is a racist.

We are straight back to man on day 1 on day 1 of man on Earth.
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:52 PM
 
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One difference, if he were republican, the NRA and the Brady's wouldn't have given him an F on his issues with guns. Especially since he doesn't have any.
Yeah we know he would bring a gun, instead of a knife to the party........why did he say that?????
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:05 PM
 
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Saying Obama has no guns when he has a Secret Service where everyone of them has access to any type of guns they want, is just nuts......... The Kennedy's were that way too, and in Hyannis they still are.

Nothing but hypocrites...
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Some looked to skin color rather than him saying he was going to "Fundamentally Change America" now why would someone vote like this.............

Voting for Obama because he was black was biggest mistake of my life » The Right Scoop -

Samuel L. Jackson: I Voted For Obama 'Because He Was Black'

"I voted for Barack because he was black. Cause that’s why other folks vote for other people — because they look like them," Jackson said,
This simply confirms how ignorant Samuel Jackson is. "I did because everyone else does it"

Does he wear Che too? All of his friends do.
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