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Old 09-27-2012, 12:16 PM
 
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Why are words like Prayer & Amen being attacked in our schools?

The forefathers who established the constitution had it wrong when they thought they'd support the Christian's rights from attacks by separating church and state, it happened just the opposite. Christians are under constant attack. It is the Christian heritage that made USA great, not islam, not hinduism or any other false belief systems
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Old 09-27-2012, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Why are words like Prayer & Amen being attacked in our schools?

The forefathers who established the constitution had it wrong when they thought they'd support the Christian's rights from attacks by separating church and state, it happened just the opposite. Christians are under constant attack. It is the Christian heritage that made USA great, not islam, not hinduism or any other false belief systems
The anti-faith people who love to quote Thomas Jefferson's "separation of church and state" passage conveniently ignore that he was writing to a Baptist congregation in Danbury, CT who feared that the president might be hostile to their religious beliefs(remember that Jefferson was accused of being an atheist - which was not true - but he did have his own ideas about spiritual things). The president reassured them that he would not be a threat - citing the establishment and free exercise clauses of the first amendment - although using a phrase that was likely politiclaly motivated - and one he probally never intended to be used as a foundation for constitutional law in the manner that it has been in recent years.

Remember - "separation of church and state" is not found in the Constitution. What is in the consititution is the idea that no official religion shall be instituted - and that citizens are free to exercise their religious liberty. There is no reason why a prayer cannot be inluded in a public school commencement ceremony. Denying students the ability to do so violated the 1st Amendment.

Here is the text of that letter -

Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists (June 1998) - Library of Congress Information Bulletin

And here is an analysis of the political climate that surrounded it -

'A Wall of Separation' (June 1998) - Library of Congress Information Bulletin

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Old 09-27-2012, 03:06 PM
 
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Angela Hildenbrand, from the graduation podium, led her graduating class in prayer.

That seems like something you would be happy about.

Following court ruling, Texas student prays at graduation – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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At least the appellate court saw it for what it was..censorship.
San Antonio is where this happened.

I do love what the judge said :

"No citizen has the right to ask the government to bind and gag the free speech of another citizen," she said.

Appellate Court Lifts Texas Graduation Prayer Ban - US - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com
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