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Old 09-29-2012, 02:09 AM
 
Location: California
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The boomers can't die soon enough as far as I am concerned. They're bankrupting the country by refusing to pay the same tax rates their parents and grandparents paid, they're greedy and have loaded the nation up with debt to pay for their retirements and medical care at public expense, and then they've pulled up the ladder behind them slashing education funding which allows young people to climb up the ladder. This is why the US now has less social mobility then every other 1st world country. With the boomers it has always been about "me, me, me, and screw everyone else." You just can't run a country that way and the sooner the boomers are gone the better.

They've been self centered spoiled little brats their whole lives.
So your looking forward to people dieing off, real classy and ignorant.
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Old 09-29-2012, 02:24 AM
 
Location: PNW, CPSouth, JacksonHole, Southampton
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Boomers are the most spoiled of all generations. Even more spoiled than millennials. Boomers opted for LBJ over Goldwater and got the gov't they deserved.

F the boomers. Fortunately, your SS and Medicare are going away soon.

You do realize that only the very oldest 'Boomers' were old enough to vote during the 1964 Election...right?

Maybe you don't even know what a 'Boomer' is, and have them confused with the 'Greatest Generation'. The 'Boomers' I know are very practical, hard-working, Right-leaning. It is their parents, the Greatest Generation, who were the reckless, romantic, idealistic, socialistic ones.

I know a younger 'Boomer' who describes the day when Kennedy was assassinated. Their class was listening to the radio, because there were tornado warnings out. The tornado updates were interrupted to announce the so-called 'President' had been shot. The whole class (of little 'boomers') cheered. Their teacher (Greatest Generation) was horrified at the show of 'disrespect'. He might have been a Gangster and destroying the nation, but he was (in her WWII mindset) still the nation's 'Leader'

They were only kids: but later, when Goldwater was trying to save America, all the Boomers I know were gung-ho pro-Goldwater. They just weren't old enough to vote. Their Greatest Generation moms, however, just loooooooved Jackie's nice suits and her husband's hair. So, they voted for 'tolerance', pretending that the Kennedys' alien ethnicities and religion would not cause them to sell America out. The Greatest Generation's absurd excesses of tolerance have basically destroyed the nation.

My 'Boomer' friends go to the gym, don't smoke, don't drink, live quietly... In part, it's a reaction to their Greatest Generation parents' smoking, drinking, singing, dancing, racing around in motorboats, buzzing around in little private planes (the men all seemed to know how to fly), driving a hundred miles an hour....

You cannot blame the Greatest Generation. They were brainwashed by the Golden Era Hollywood movies, and the little educational films about "fitting in" (being 'normal', in these little films, was the most important thing in the world...maybe an early attempt by the elites, to destroy American traditions of independent thought), incessant propaganda about the value of 'obedience'... And then, they were sent off to face horrifying death (or worse than death) in Europe. The Greatest Generation's was a collective/conformist/group-think mentality, and a deeply scarred mentality. (Remember, they went straight from growing up during the Great Depression, to fighting a horrific war.)

I will add that I know of many private corporations, in which the reins of power are only now being passed from the Greatest Generation to the Boomers. This may be unprecedented, for such a change of the guard to happen so late in life for both sides. Some Boomers are unprepared, having been held in virtual adolescence, well into middle age.

Other Boomers, who have resisted being put down by their parents, have basically lived secret work/investment lives. "Mama and Daddy think I'm an idiot. I stopped telling them anything about what I'm doing when I was 25. We just go over for dinner, as seldom as possible, and sit there, while Mama runs her big fat mouth, and Daddy occasionally insults us or one of our kids." This, from someone who has amassed a few million, through diligent application and thrifty living. "Now, they are 'honoring' me with a 'limited' say in the company. They're not sure I'm ready. I'm only 60, y' know! I'm tempted to tell them I have my own company, have had it since I was 29 and they can go f... themselves. But how would they know I've ever accomplished anything? When I'm around them, all they do is talk inane drivel nonstop. I think they want to think I've never done a thing. They never really acknowledged that I'd graduated college." (I will restate that this Boomer is a wonderful parent, a pillar of his community, and a financial success, in the eyes of everyone but his Parents and their siblings)

You may have the generations confused. It may be the socialist/egalitarian-inclined Greatest Generation you're describing. Some of them are still in their eighties, and many are still 'Chairmen of the Board'.

It would be a HUGE MISTAKE, BTW, to believe anything John Stossel says.

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Old 09-29-2012, 05:35 AM
 
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The boomers can't die soon enough as far as I am concerned. They're bankrupting the country by refusing to pay the same tax rates their parents and grandparents paid, they're greedy and have loaded the nation up with debt to pay for their retirements and medical care at public expense, and then they've pulled up the ladder behind them slashing education funding which allows young people to climb up the ladder. This is why the US now has less social mobility then every other 1st world country. With the boomers it has always been about "me, me, me, and screw everyone else." You just can't run a country that way and the sooner the boomers are gone the better.

They've been self centered spoiled little brats their whole lives.



WIshing people dead?


By your reasoning, or lack thereof, FDR & LBJ were Boomers.
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Old 09-29-2012, 05:46 AM
 
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A lot of people have already written off this election and are gearing up for 2016 as it seems Romney most likely will lose this election. Everyone seems to think that the republican party will have a better chance in 2016 but I'm not so sure. The republican base is getting smaller as a percentage and that's a fact. In the next 4 years how many boomers will kick off and how many minorities will become old enough to vote or gain citizenship? What will happen within the republican party itself in the next for years? It seems as if they're unable to get behind any candidate due to the fact that half of the party is made up of realistic conservative voters and the other half is made up of ultra conservative crazy folks that are unwilling to change with the times. As these folks start to die off will it allow the party to change it's stances on social issues, foreign policy and the environment enough to make it more appealing to younger voters and minorities? This shift in demographics seems bad in the short term but there's a good chance that it's what will ensure a future for the party in the next 20-30 years IMO.
Now ya dun gone and did it! What makes you think any of us Baby Boomers will be dead and gone in another 4 years?? That will make the majority of us not quite 70, still of sound mind and being that most of us haven't BURIED our minds in a computer AND have managed to get outside for that good old fresh air that younger folks are missing, our health for the most part is pretty darn good.

Conservative?? Uh...think back to the way times were in the 60's, 70's and 80's...we were youngins back then and how conservative we all were is debatable.

There are no younger voters to carry your "party" because they simply just don't care what happens beyond the computer and that BLUNT that they have to have. Vote??? OKAY and I am Captain Kangaroo..oh, you don't know who that is?? Ask a Boomer who has managed to get out and about in the world. Have you ever sat and talked to someone who grew up in the 50's or 60's?? Try it, you might get a whole different perspective on life in general.

Look...Boomers are taking the blame for Social Security issues, lack of work issues and now the blame on perhaps Romney losing the election is going to be on our back too? I think NOT. If the younger folks truly wanted to sway this election they would get involved and do something about it..not gonna happen because for one the voting booth can't be BROUGHT to them directly and they would have to GET OUT and away from the computer games.

If you want your party to win next election, then get more involved and get your peers involved as well because this Boomer for one isn't going anywhere.
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Old 09-29-2012, 07:03 AM
 
Location: US
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With all due respect, I disagree with your many of your assessments below. Technology IS in schools, courtrooms and offices--boomers haven't held that back. A boomer's construction company built the courthouse in our city, which included the "courtroom of the future." Boomers not only enbraced technology but helped implement and further its advancement. The cost of cell phones, calculators, etc. was very high when they first came on the scene. I remember my brother paying several hundred dollars for a calculator in college. That may be one of the reasons your father had you buy your own--that and his desire to teach you personal responsibilty, for which he is to be praised. My father taught me the same lesson. I too give my son a phone for his own safety, but not a smart phone.

Microsoft and AARP actually worked together to get boomers' input on the use and implementation of its technolgy.

Further, elders have not held back advancements in medicine, technology, space exploraton, travel. Just because they may not participate in social media as much as Gen Yers does not mean they are inept or holding back the country.

I believe the issues you are referring to, and the real intention behind this thread, are actually moral/social issues. As you can see from this thread, apparently some can't wait for boomers to die. But really it's not the boomers that are the real subject of this thread--it's those who vote against social issues such as gay rights, abortion--and those are young and old. While I've seen many of the boomers vote for the advancement of these examples of social issues, I have not seen many of the eldest generation supporting them. No matter how fast the boomers go, there will always be people who will be "conservatives."

Finally, a topic where most people agree is that there's not many people who don't want a return to "normalcy" with regard to our country's financial stability. Where people disagree is how to get there.


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Old people dying off is always better for the furthering of a younger generation's vision or ideology.

Not saying that it's a good or bad thing for betterment of society as a whole, but as we age, we are prone to be less and less accepting of changes. At any given time, there are generally 3 generations of majority age persons - the young who want to change things, the eldest generation that resists just about any and all changes to their idea of "normalcy", and the middle generation that is more apt to accept certain changes, but still rejects others.

As the older generation dies off, there is less resistance to whatever change it may be.

A good example is the incorporation of technology into schools.

Another would be the concept of using a cellphone number as a valid phone number. It used to be that many places would not accept anything but a landline number as a contact number. There's still some places that won't accept that some of us don't have (or want) a landline.

Heck, even the concept of kids with phones. My father did not allow me to have one until I paid for it. My daughter will get one as soon as she starts after-school activities - albeit not a smartphone like mine.
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Old 09-29-2012, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So just kill off the generation before you and the world will be handed to you on a silver platter ?
That's all Americans aged 48-66 (boomer generation today).

Really ? The gimme crowd is becoming the take it at all costs crowd ?

It's globalism that did you in my friends, not the boomers.
Your need for instant gratification has sent you into deep debt.
Your vision is clouded. You don't graduate college and instantly become upper middle class with a high paying job and a McMansion.
Your life revolves around "bling" and you can't afford it and you're angry.

I have a son who is 21 and is learning the hard way to make it on his own.
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Old 09-29-2012, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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The boomers can't die soon enough as far as I am concerned. They're bankrupting the country by refusing to pay the same tax rates their parents and grandparents paid, they're greedy and have loaded the nation up with debt to pay for their retirements and medical care at public expense, and then they've pulled up the ladder behind them slashing education funding which allows young people to climb up the ladder. This is why the US now has less social mobility then every other 1st world country. With the boomers it has always been about "me, me, me, and screw everyone else." You just can't run a country that way and the sooner the boomers are gone the better.

They've been self centered spoiled little brats their whole lives.
Every elected politician of the last 75 years was/is a baby boomer? Who knew?
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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So what were the deductions in my paycheck all those years I worked? Where did the money go?
Vietnam, Iraq, defense, food stamps, you name it. Milked from the Treasury and replaced with worthless IOUs now held by the Fed Reserve. It's gooooooone....poof!
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I'll worry about it when it happens. If my getting SSI is screwing you over, then I'm enjoying every second of it.
Oh you'll still get your check. It just won't buy much of anything meaningful. For me, it's all good as I have at least 25-30 years of working time, I'm in an extremely employable industry, and my wages are skyrocketing with inflation.

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Get a job, save your money, and hopefully there will be something for you when you reach retirement, or do you have some kind of magic potion that will prevent you from getting older? Do you hold the same contempt for your parents/grandparents? Do you get on your soap box and tell them what horrible people they are and when their SSI and Medicare is cut they can rot in hell because they deserve it?
Like I said, you get your checks. They just don't buy anything.

My parents are in a good situation, so are my in-laws. We're good to go. If you're relying on SS and Medicare, you're going to have some problems ahead regardless of who wins.

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FYI, fortunately I can use my SSI to go towards my grandson's education. If all goes well he will complete his college education and come out with no debt.
Good for you.
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:56 AM
 
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I do notice one trend where people happily send their kids to publicly funded schools, then after the kids graduate and are out of the house, they start complaining about their property taxes. It's a bit unsettling. Other than that, I find these "Let's bash generation (fill in the blank) for all the nation's problems" to be a bit tiresome.
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