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Old 09-28-2012, 01:27 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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He doesn't contradict anything, he says he doesn't know and makes a few guesses. He couldn't actually duplicate the same artifacts, his reasoning means nothing in the long run.
If his reasoning means nothing, then yours definitely doesn't either, and neither does that of the "experts" that the birthers conjure up to validate their agenda.
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Sorry, I'd trust a world-class expert over the fake experts who failed at proving Obama's B/C fake.

This is very damaging to the birther case.
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Facts won't matter to the birthers just like facts don't matter to most RWNJ.
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Old 09-29-2012, 07:24 AM
 
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wow, with all the people on this forum who will confidently proclaim obama'a LFBC to be an "obvious" forgery we only had one attempt to argue the OP claim.
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Old 09-29-2012, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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He also said that those artifacts are indicative of Adobe applications.
So what? Adobe applications are used everyday without there any forgery being involved.

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He doesn't offer any clues as to why the metadata in the online PDF says it was generated with MAC OSX's PDF generator which is Preview.
Who needs clues? That's the software that was used to create the final PDF.

Insert "Duh" here.
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Old 09-29-2012, 11:20 AM
 
Location: West Egg
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You miss the point that pointing out any opinion that dissents from the conspiracy theory simply reinforces in their minds how massive the conspiracy really is.

That's the beauty of conspiracy theories! The adherence to them is so warped that all evidence supports them. Supporting evidence? Naturally, that supports them. Opposing evidence? "See?! They're in on the conspiracy!".

The conspiracy theory is a mentally-compartmentalized world where every bit of data is interpreted to perfectly comport with their pre-conceived notions.
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Old 09-29-2012, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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You miss the point that pointing out any opinion that dissents from the conspiracy theory simply reinforces in their minds how massive the conspiracy really is.

That's the beauty of conspiracy theories! The adherence to them is so warped that all evidence supports them. Supporting evidence? Naturally, that supports them. Opposing evidence? "See?! They're in on the conspiracy!".

The conspiracy theory is a mentally-compartmentalized world where every bit of data is interpreted to perfectly comport with their pre-conceived notions.
You bet.
In the birther's world, there is no objective news reporting, all polls are rigged, the President controls the price of gas, everyone is out to get their guns. And women can't control themselves.

Everything is buried under layers of conspiracy, and the brown hordes are massing on the southern border, awaiting commands from their brothers in the middle east.

Everyone is out to get them, and it's every many for himself, so head to the hills and bunker up. Trust no one.

It's perfect mix of denial, paranoia, ignorance and anarchy.
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Yeah, there is a whole movement of these RWNJ to build boom bunkers and wait for the supposed race war they expect to start happening any day now. They're really screwed up in the head.
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Old 09-29-2012, 06:14 PM
 
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You miss the point that pointing out any opinion that dissents from the conspiracy theory simply reinforces in their minds how massive the conspiracy really is.
but in this case they've yet to do that. following birtherism i've seen many judges praised by birthers only to be accused of being "part of the conspiracy" once they ruled against them. i've been expecting the birthers to come down on prof. de queiroz for the same reason but so far......... nothing. it seems as if the birthers are of the opinion if they ignore it didn't happen.
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Old 12-11-2013, 03:10 PM
 
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He couldn't actually duplicate the same artifacts,.....
they have now:


President Obama's birth certificate is not a forgery - Part 1 - YouTube
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