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Old 01-12-2013, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Congratulations on actually being correct about something. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
Now show me where a first lady has ever signed legislation into law, or has been acknowledged to have executive powers.
See post #128 - and read the article where the Justice Department's opinion is reported as follows:

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But the White House has defended the practice citing a 2005 opinion from the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel.

At the end of a 29-page review that includes obscure legal references and frequent citations to common law, the Counsel's office came to this conclusion:

"...the President need not personally perform the physical act of affixing his signature to a bill he approves and decides to sign in order for the bill to become law. Rather, the President may sign a bill within the meaning of Article I, Section 7 by directing a subordinate to affix the President's signature to such a bill, for example by autopen."
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...bill-into-law/
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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See post #128 - and read the article where the Justice Department's opinion is reported as follows:

Obama uses autopen, again, to sign bill into law - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
The FLOTUS is nowhere in the chain of command of the country, therefore could not be considered a "subordinate". Even in the case of the autopen, it is his signature/approval being signed, not a proxy's. Not Michelle's name, not Fido The White House Dog's name, it's the POTUS's name.
And please, Mr. Wannabe Lawyer, tell me how any of this demonstrates that Michelle is actually running the country. I mean, that's the entire premise of this idiotic thread, isn't it
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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The FLOTUS is nowhere in the chain of command of the country, therefore could not be considered a "subordinate".
Neither is an autopen.
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:05 PM
 
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See post #102
Well!

I never SAID she was any more the president than he is.

It's just that she has better documentation.
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Well!

I never SAID she was any more the president than he is.

It's just that she has better documentation.
She is prettier too.
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:12 PM
 
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The FLOTUS is nowhere in the chain of command of the country, therefore could not be considered a "subordinate". Even in the case of the autopen, it is his signature/approval being signed, not a proxy's. Not Michelle's name, not Fido The White House Dog's name, it's the POTUS's name.
And please, Mr. Wannabe Lawyer, tell me how any of this demonstrates that Michelle is actually running the country. I mean, that's the entire premise of this idiotic thread, isn't it
FLOTUS is the hidden hand of the . . . MARKETPLACE.

"Bill becomes law without president's signature . .

When Congress is not adjourned, and the president fails to either sign or veto a bill sent to him by the end of the 10-day period, it becomes law without his signature."

About the Presidential Veto
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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If any of your assertions were correct, then Jackie Kennedy would have been JFK's successor, not LBJ.
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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The FLOTUS is nowhere in the chain of command of the country, therefore could not be considered a "subordinate". Even in the case of the autopen, it is his signature/approval being signed, not a proxy's. Not Michelle's name, not Fido The White House Dog's name, it's the POTUS's name.
And please, Mr. Wannabe Lawyer, tell me how any of this demonstrates that Michelle is actually running the country. I mean, that's the entire premise of this idiotic thread, isn't it
No - the entire premise of this awesome thread is that the president is an amateur and incompetent.

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How an amateur President Obama divided the Kennedy clan
How the ‘amateur’ Obama has failed miserably with his foreign policies
Why Michelle Obama is really the one running the country
The Amateur is a stuffed with eye-opening anecdotes and nearly 200 interviews, many of them with the insiders who know Barack Obama to be a true amateur.


http://businesslife.com/articles.php?id=2239
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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She is prettier too.
That is debatable . . .
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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This thread is so freakin stupid I can't believe it's here on CD.
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