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Old 09-30-2012, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Montco PA
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Imagine if the 47% who pay no Federal income tax had to pay a minimum tax of $500. Let's say that 20,000,000 tax returns now pay $500 instead of $0, which brings in $10,000,000,000 annually. Then this $10 billion is allocated 100% to U.S. infrastructure needs (roads, bridges, trains).

I see 3 good things here:

1 - Lower-income people, and some millionaires who pay no Federal income tax, now pay $500 and have some skin in the game. Most of the 47% are neither lazy nor unproductive but instead benefit from a multitude of tax credits which often provide them with refunds, sometimes significant.

2 - The new revenue is utilized in this country, not other countries, for sorely-needed infrastructure improvements. This is beneficial because our government seems to always want to cut funding for U.S. infrastructure while spending money elsewhere. The money could be awarded to crumbling bridges in need of repair, over-burdened highways needing expansion, and the establishment or restoration of rail services to congested areas not currently serviced adequately by public transportation.

3 - The money spent in #2 above stimulates the economy, perhaps far more than providing people with a $500 tax cut that they use to buy a flat-screen TV engineered and manufactured in another country.

I know, I'm a naive idealist, and our government would squander the money on bloated, inefficient, unworthy, pork barrel projects, but at least in theory it's a good idea.
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Old 10-01-2012, 04:09 AM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
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The federal tax on motor fuels already funds 3 times as much as your proposal to infrastructure improvements, over $30 billion, and has been for years.
How are you picking the 20 million people out of the 47%? Do you want those on welfare to pay? Where would they get it? Do you want my son who is in college to pay?
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Old 10-01-2012, 06:02 AM
 
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Great idea, go after those who are hanging on by a thread for $500 a year while those who make millions get charged the same $500 tax rate. That makes perfect sense, in the GOP's parallel dimension anyway...
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Old 10-01-2012, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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I know a women who is disabled and is raising a 10-year old daughter on a monthly SSI payment of $660. I'm sure she'll be proud to cough up about a month's income every year, to help get the Romney's off the hook and to beautify the overpasses on the beltway. Trust me, she has some skin in the game, and bones and blood.
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:11 AM
 
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The problem isn't the 47% that don't pay federal income tax because most of those people do work and pay payroll taxes through out the year and basically fund the Government on a daily basis. Those 47% also pay property taxes, sales taxes and other taxes.
Those who are self employed and/or are business owners get to pay Federal Income taxes every Quarter unlike the average employee who gets their taxes withheld every paycheck. In addition self employed/business owners have the advantage of getting extensions for paying their income taxes.
The tax code does favor the wealthy.
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Montco PA
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The federal tax on motor fuels already funds 3 times as much as your proposal to infrastructure improvements, over $30 billion, and has been for years.
How are you picking the 20 million people out of the 47%? Do you want those on welfare to pay? Where would they get it? Do you want my son who is in college to pay?
20 million was a complete estimate on my part of the people who represent the 47% that still have the wherewithal to pay. Old ladies who only receive SS are out. College kids are out. Low income families, especially those with young children, are out. The 20 million an estimate of those who have an ability to pay $500 but don't pay Federal income tax because of the generous credits and deductions that are available to them. Or because they have $100k per year of tax-exempt interest income that isn't taxable for Federal purposes.

As for the Federal tax on fuels, you are correct, but clearly it's not enough.
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:41 AM
 
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I know, I'm a naive idealist, and our government would squander the money on bloated, inefficient, unworthy, pork barrel projects, but at least in theory it's a good idea.
Taxes will be raised eventually for the poor and the wealthy. There is no way around it.

Forget about building roads we cannot even afford our current obligations.

it's only a matter of time, someday getting a tax credit for interest on your mortgage will be history. But everybody wants their cake and eat it too, they want Medicare, Social Security, tax credits and a country with a healthy debt. Money doesn't grow on trees Americans, wake up and smell the coffee. Ok I'm done with my clichés
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Old 10-01-2012, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Shaw.
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Isn't there a politics section this should be moved to?
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