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Old 10-01-2012, 01:16 PM
 
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obamas' had operations in Florida and Texas. obama and holder supplied more weapons than they have so far acknowledged, the weapons have been tied to a massacre of teens and young adults

The other shoe dropped on the ATF’s Operation Fast and Furious last night, and it should sting — if enough people pay attention to it. Univision reported that the effort wasn’t just limited to one ATF office in Arizona — it had other operations in Florida and Texas as well. The ATF and Department of Justice lost more weapons than they have so far acknowledged, and those weapons have been tied to even more murders than previously thought — including a massacre of teens and young adults. This report literally showed blood flowing in the streets as a result of Fast and Furious, as ABC News reports:

57 more Fast and Furious weapons have been found in Mexico, it is also being confirmed that some of those weapons were used to slaughter 14 Mexican teenagers and wound 12 more near Ciudad Juarez.

Univision’s bombshell: Fast & Furious not just in Arizona, or Mexico « Hot Air

 
Old 10-02-2012, 03:36 AM
 
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This is a disgrace and Holder et al ought to be held accountable to the highest measure.
 
Old 10-02-2012, 06:59 AM
 
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Bluesjuke, what would you have done differently? I've lived along the border and it's a mess.
 
Old 10-02-2012, 06:59 AM
 
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Univision: Juarez drug cartel leader ‘El Diego’ was captured with Fast and Furious weapons


When Mexican authorities took Juarez drug cartel carnage king Jose Antonio Acosta Hernandez — better known as “El Diego” — into custody, he had weapons from Operation Fast and Furious on his person, the English-language transcript of the Spanish-language television network Univision’s special investigation into the scandal shows.

“According to investigations, ‘El Diego’ forms the link between this massacre and Fast and Furious,” an anchor read on air in Spanish Sunday evening, referring to two different mass killings drug cartel operatives used Fast and Furious weapons to conduct as Univision reported.



Drug cartel leader was captured with Fast & Furious weapons | The Daily Caller
 
Old 10-02-2012, 07:04 AM
 
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Another Bush plan gone bad.
 
Old 10-02-2012, 07:33 AM
 
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As a college student, Eric Holder participated in ‘armed’ takeover of former Columbia University ROTC office
I wonder if holder and obama have a kinship type feeling with the drug cartels in Mexico and are just lending them a hand like they did for the black panthers here in the US
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As college student, Eric Holder participated in 'armed' takeover of former Columbia University ROTC office | The Daily Caller
 
Old 10-02-2012, 08:10 AM
 
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Bluesjuke, what would you have done differently? I've lived along the border and it's a mess.
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Another Bush plan gone bad.
(1) Bushs'operation Wide Receiver did not result in the death of a U.S. Border Patrol agent or an ICE officer or hundreds of Mexicans.

obamas' Fast and Furious did.

The guns that killed agent Brian Terry and officer Jamie Zapata were traced back to straw purchasers related to obams' Fast and Furious.

(2) Bushs' Wide Receiver, was a gun-tracing operation putting specific safeguards in place to track firearms, such as RFID chips perhaps with video or aerial surveillance.

Gun-walking is what happened in obamas' Fast and Furious, where ATF agents sold thousands of guns without a reliable way to recover them..

Guns from Bushs' Wide Receiver were implanted with RFID chips and were actively tracked electronically. The ATF in Phoenix also implemented aerial surveillance tactics in an attempt to follow the weapons.

obama and holder in charge of Fast and Furious took no steps to recover walked guns other than recording the serial numbers before watching them disappear in the hands of Mexican drug cartels.

ATF agents involved in Fast and Furious have previously testified that they were ordered to stand down and not track the weapons even when interdiction was possible and instead “took notes” and let the guns walk across the Mexico border. Watch some of ATF whistleblower John Dodson’s Congressional testimony:

(3) 300 hundred guns” were traced in Bushs' Wide Receiver.

2,000 firearms walked in obamas' Fast and Furious none were traced.
1,400 guns were lost and about 700 have been recovered in Mexico and at crime scenes like the sites of Terry and Zapata’s murders.

(4) most convincing piece of evidence proving the two operations are separate from each other is that Bushs'Wide Receiver was shut down in 2007 . This was before Obama was even in office and nearly two years before Fast and Furious began.

obamas' Fast and Furious wasn’t shut down until late 2010 after the deaths of hundreds of Mexicans, a border agent and an ICE officer.

(5) Bushs' Wide Receiver was in close contact with Mexican authorities during the operation

Mexican authorities were kept completely in the dark by obama and holder during Fast and Furious, Mexican ambassador to the U.S. Mexico announced on June 1, 2012 that Mexico would be launching its own probe into Fast and Furious.

It should be perfectly clear except to obama brownie queens that Bush and Obama conducted two separate, operations.
 
Old 10-02-2012, 03:30 PM
 
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Bluesjuke, what would you have done differently? I've lived along the border and it's a mess.


I don't understand your question in the context of this thread and what the government has done.
 
Old 10-02-2012, 03:38 PM
 
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Eric Holder,Obama and Butch Napolitano have blood on their hands.
 
Old 10-31-2012, 04:39 AM
 
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Eric Holder,Obama and Butch Napolitano have blood on their hands.

I guess you haven't been paying attention

After all the speculation by some (including Rep. Darrell Issa) and Sen. Chuck Grassley) there was no evidence that Attorney General Eric Holder was aware of the operation or involved in a cover-up, as noted by the Issa/Grassley investigative committee.

Read more: Issa-Grassley report links Fast & Furious to 'widespread' Justice Department failures | Fox News (Only Foxnews had mentioned the second report,and they had even included that little detail, although burred at the bottom of the article)

There are very few changes in the many government departments that work in and around law enforcement & national security, no matter who is in the white house or who has been appointed to lead the department.
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