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You can teach a gorilla the international sign language association hand gesture for conservative and liberal, but there is no way to consistently make that gorilla use that gesture correctly, for the monkey is not the sort of being that is willing or perhaps even capable of understanding such things.
(Hint: I am describing you, and thus, implicitly, insulting you. But! Keep in mind, I do it in sorrow, not in anger. You write gibberish with vehemence.)
Wanting of what? lol, So educate me to your liberal thinking.
Wanting of something other than your opinion. You don't like liberals or what you perceive to be liberal philosophy...so what. Who cares? It is your opinion and you are entitled to it. Means very little to me the opinion of an anonymous poster on CD. Maybe you would like to actually cite some accepted definition of liberalism and conservatism.
The Stamp act which was a tax that the British imposed on colonist to pay for the troops they had her in America. The British government felt that the colonies were the primary beneficiaries of this military presence, and should pay at least a portion of the expense.
The British Parliament insisted it had the right to tax colonists. The colonists claimed that, as they were British subjects, taxation without representation was illegal.
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Besides I am American and I have rights too. I am being taxed without representation, oops, the republican officials are my representation and they say I am paying enough taxes.
I do not see that it is fit for so few to pay taxes and others don't. The people who do not pay taxes benefit from the roads too.
We fought for representation, which we have representation. If you don't like something in your government, then you should contact your representative.
The liberal has a completely different definition of fairness. Liberals think we have a right to the same fruits no matter what our labor. They believe that they should not have to work for their welfare. Therefore believe in redistribution regardless of abilities and labor.
Three straw men.
I personally know of no liberals who believe those things.
We fought for representation, which we have representation. If you don't like something in your government, then you should contact your representative.
Yeah, and these TEA Party idiots also believe that taxation is unconstitutional when it's exactly the opposite.
The Federalist Papers clearly state that the founding fathers wanted UNLIMITED taxation power for the government. Oops!
Plus, these people seem to think that the lower taxes are, the better a nation is.
Countries among those with the lowest corporate rates: Albania, Serbia, Macedonia, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Hungary, Bosnia, Georgia, Latvia, Botswana, Palestine, Romania, Uzbekistan, Montenegro, Nepal...those are some nations which really dominate the world's corporate stage, eh?
US is pretty much in the middle on both fronts.
Countries among those with the highest corporate rates: Japan, Brazil, Belgium, Australia, Germany, the world's richest nation Luxembourg, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Austria, Israel...hmmm, seems like the higher taxed nations seem to develop most of the world's best economies and companies.
How about personal tax rates?
Low: Ivory Coast, Bulgaria, Kazakhstan, Paraguay, Costa Rica, Serbia, Romania, Lithuania, Slovakia, Armenia, Egypt and Pakistan
High: Denmark, The Netherlands, Sweden, Japan, South Korea, Luxembourg, Finland, Belgium, Austria, Sweden, UK and Germany.
Which countries would you rather live in? The ones listed in the Low personal tax rates or the ones with the high taxes?
Being a Libertarian does not mean I am against taxes or government (I'd be an Anarchist if I was against government), it means I believe that we deserve social freedoms and a free market which is regulated to protect us but not to stifle development.
Yeah, and these TEA Party idiots also believe that taxation is unconstitutional when it's exactly the opposite.
The Federalist Papers clearly state that the founding fathers wanted UNLIMITED taxation power for the government. Oops!
Plus, these people seem to think that the lower taxes are, the better a nation is.
Countries among those with the lowest corporate rates: Albania, Serbia, Macedonia, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Hungary, Bosnia, Georgia, Latvia, Botswana, Palestine, Romania, Uzbekistan, Montenegro, Nepal...those are some nations which really dominate the world's corporate stage, eh?
US is pretty much in the middle on both fronts.
Countries among those with the highest corporate rates: Japan, Brazil, Belgium, Australia, Germany, the world's richest nation Luxembourg, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Austria, Israel...hmmm, seems like the higher taxed nations seem to develop most of the world's best economies and companies.
How about personal tax rates?
Low: Ivory Coast, Bulgaria, Kazakhstan, Paraguay, Costa Rica, Serbia, Romania, Lithuania, Slovakia, Armenia, Egypt and Pakistan
High: Denmark, The Netherlands, Sweden, Japan, South Korea, Luxembourg, Finland, Belgium, Austria, Sweden, UK and Germany.
Which countries would you rather live in? The ones listed in the Low personal tax rates or the ones with the high taxes?
Being a Libertarian does not mean I am against taxes or government (I'd be an Anarchist if I was against government), it means I believe that we deserve social freedoms and a free market which is regulated to protect us but not to stifle development.
You might be one of the first Libertarians I could actually have a real conversation with and agree with.
Wanting of something other than your opinion. You don't like liberals or what you perceive to be liberal philosophy...so what. Who cares? It is your opinion and you are entitled to it. Means very little to me the opinion of an anonymous poster on CD. Maybe you would like to actually cite some accepted definition of liberalism and conservatism.
Just as I expected, you said I was wrong but when I asked you to say why, you skirt the question.
Liberals think we have a right to the same fruits no matter what our labor. They believe that they should not have to work for their welfare. Therefore believe in redistribution regardless of abilities and labor.
Unbeknownst to the liberal, we will always need capitalism
Nah, you confuse principles found Liberalism, Socialism, and Marxism. Read up on them and try to comprehend them before you throw terms around that serve no purpose other than to make you look uninformed. For crying out loud, you don't even seem to grasp the principles of capitalism and why successful capitalism MUST, eventually, become a victim of its own success.
Nah, you confuse principles found Liberalism, Socialism, and Marxism. Read up on them and try to comprehend them before you throw terms around that serve no purpose other than to make you look uninformed. For crying out loud, you don't even seem to grasp the principles of capitalism and why successful capitalism MUST, eventually, become a victim of its own success.
I dont buy that Marxist-Obama drivel, Free Market Capitalism is the Best Path to Prosperity
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