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Wow....you really are a sad example for a Liberal.
You don't care about Americans being murdered by terrorists and now we find you don;t care about people losing good jobs and being forced to take multiple low wage jobs.
Let's see if we have this right........................
BUSH... (Republican) approx,800,000 job losses each month at the end of his term
OBAMA.. (Democrat) steady job growth virtually throughout his term in office and now unemployment to it's lowest level since January 2009.
We all hate hearing of terrorists killing American's and i'm sure both parties will do all they can to prevent it but please stop the silly blame game when terrorists attack us. If you really want to go down that road there are plenty of attacks and deaths during Bush's administration.... 9/11, SS Cole etc etc.
Low wages are in the hands of the employer.... not the Govt. plenty of great excuses though for employers to pay low wages since 2008..... many lost jobs because of the recession and now have jobs again..... the employers are the ones scurrying around looking for excuses NOT to pay decent salaries...
NOT Obama. I knew quite a few people before Obama became President who had to have 2/3 jobs because of extremely low pay....especially women.
Most small employers have never been able to afford health insurance for their employees.
Ive worked at Florida law firms where lawyers expect you to be covered by your spouse. This is how small businesses survive. Its not right, but its fact.
At job interviews they would even ask (which is actually illegal) if you "need health insurance" through their small firm.
I always got the better position by replying no, bcs I was covered by my husband.
This was 2001 btw. Health insurance is run amok, and small businessmen cannot afford it. It is just hitting home now bcs people want to blame obamacare. a red herring.
"In an experiment apparently aimed at keeping down the cost of health-care reform, Orlando-based Darden Restaurants has stopped offering full-time schedules to many hourly workers in at least a few Olive Gardens, Red Lobsters and LongHorn Steakhouses."
"Analysts say many other companies, including the White Castle hamburger chain, are considering employing fewer full-timers because of key features of the Affordable Care Act scheduled to go into effect in 2014. Under that law, large companies must provide affordable health insurance to employees working an average of at least 30 hours per week."
You mean those Bush 43 tax cuts weren't for job creators to create jobs? I'm shocked.
I'm a small business owner and i WANT to offer a good health care plan to my employees.
Give them the money you would otherwise pay for that "good health care plan" and let them buy their own "good health care plan" and not worry about loosing it if they loose their job with you or if your company tanks.
That is the goal...whatever we are doing now is just a step towards that goal. It's painful and will take awhile because people are fighting against it because (insert lame reason here) but there is NO REASON anyone should have to pay more for an individual policy than you pay for a policy for an employee. None. We are all in one big pool here.
Give them the money you would otherwise pay for that "good health care plan" and let them buy their own "good health care plan" and not worry about loosing it if they loose their job with you.
That is the goal...whatever we are doing now is just a step towards that goal. It's painful and will take awhile because people are fighting against it but there is NO REASON I should have to pay more for an individual policy than you pay for a policy for an employee. None.
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You obviously know nothing about how things work in a corporate environment.
Have you ever heard of getting a GROUP RATE because we are all (I have the same plan as my employees do) getting our health care cheaper because we are purchasing insurance at a bulk rate than what we would pay individually.
If I gave them each their part of what I pay for the group, they couldn't get the same level of health care coverage individually.
You also haven't addressed Obama's comment that it would cost $1-2 Trllion (quite a nice gap there huh?) start-up fees. He plans to cover that with his tax on the wealthy which the CBO says will only bring in a mere $68 Billion. Where's the rest of that money supposed to come from?
You mean those Bush 43 tax cuts weren't for job creators to create jobs? I'm shocked.
Please make sure you don't whine when your income taxes go up January 1. That will only happen if Obama gets re-elected though. Yep, those Bush-Obama tax cuts extended to all who pay income taxes and you may well be one of them. I sure as hell am one of those who will see my taxes on my Social Security go up.
Most small employers have never been able to afford health insurance for their employees.
Ive worked at Florida law firms where lawyers expect you to be covered by your spouse. This is how small businesses survive. Its not right, but its fact.
At job interviews they would even ask (which is actually illegal) if you "need health insurance" through their small firm.
I always got the better position by replying no, bcs I was covered by my husband.
This was 2001 btw. Health insurance is run amok, and small businessmen cannot afford it. It is just hitting home now bcs people want to blame obamacare. a red herring.
Well Walmart offers it, Target offers it, HEB (regional Texas supermarket) offers it, Denny's offers it, Rudy's BBQ offers it, Hollywood Video offered it (until they went bust).
Give them the money you would otherwise pay for that "good health care plan" and let them buy their own "good health care plan" and not worry about loosing it if they loose their job with you or if your company tanks.
That is the goal...whatever we are doing now is just a step towards that goal. It's painful and will take awhile because people are fighting against it because (insert lame reason here) but there is NO REASON anyone should have to pay more for an individual policy than you pay for a policy for an employee. None. We are all in one big pool here.
I think you see that the Obamacare rule about insurance is aimed at getting everybody under government insurance some day. Then we have that there single payer thing so everybody gets the same goodies.
Do you really fail to see what this whole thing is about?
Give them the money you would otherwise pay for that "good health care plan" and let them buy their own "good health care plan" and not worry about loosing it if they loose their job with you or if your company tanks.
That is the goal...whatever we are doing now is just a step towards that goal. It's painful and will take awhile because people are fighting against it because (insert lame reason here) but there is NO REASON anyone should have to pay more for an individual policy than you pay for a policy for an employee. None. We are all in one big pool here.
What is the goal ? The goal of Obamacare was to offer insurance to those that wanted to buy it but could not afford it or were denied coverage.
There was never any goal to get everyone off group health plans.
You obviously know nothing about how things work in a corporate environment.
Have you ever heard of getting a GROUP RATE because we are all (I have the same plan as my employees do) getting our health care cheaper because we are purchasing insurance at a bulk rate than what we would pay individually.
If I gave them each their part of what I pay for the group, they couldn't get the same level of health care coverage individually.
You also haven't addressed Obama's comment that it would cost $1-2 Trllion (quite a nice gap there huh?) start-up fees. He plans to cover that with his tax on the wealthy which the CBO says will only bring in a mere $68 Billion. Where's the rest of that money supposed to come from?
That other money will come from the rest of us once they prove that the rich can't handle it on their own.
Actually I am sure that very few progs really do understand how those systems work. My son says that he can't afford health insurance unless his employer raises his pay about $1k. Of course, he is pretty right leaning, though.
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