If Tax is Theft, What You Say About Profit? (soldiers, highway, companies)

[knowledgeiskey]

Libertarians say tax is theft, but they support the free market. What they fail to realize is that the free market runs on one principle: Profit. Profit is theoretically theft. According to natural law, to exceed income to expenditure, is a form of gimmick. This could be regarded as theft.


You can't have it both ways.

[A Common Anomaly]

Rent seeking is theft, but not profit. In fact, libertarians will often argue that economic profits will be lower in free markets than our current paradigm of corporatism. Market competition will erode economic profits that many big companies make due to government intervention in the market on their behalf.

[rbohm]

businesses earn profit, government does NOT earn taxes.

[knowledgeiskey]

Originally Posted by rbohm

businesses earn profit, government does NOT earn taxes.

But how is that fair to consumers?

[A Common Anomaly]

Originally Posted by rbohm

businesses earn profit, government does NOT earn taxes.

Soldiers, cops, teachers, firefighters, highway workers, sewer workers, water treatment workers don't earn their pay?

I would love to see you tell a soldier who came back from a ME tour that he didn't his earn his pay.

[knowledgeiskey]

Originally Posted by A Common Anomaly

Soldiers, cops, teachers, firefighters, highway workers, sewer workers, water treatment workers don't earn their pay?

I would love to see you tell a soldier who came back from a ME tour that he didn't his earn his pay.

Add the construction workers who put in place the infrastructure for businesses to function.

[Electron]

Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey

Libertarians say tax is theft, but they support the free market. What they fail to realize is that the free market runs on one principle: Profit. Profit is theoretically theft. According to natural law, to exceed income to expenditure, is a form of gimmick. This could be regarded as theft.


You can't have it both ways.

You are categorically incorrect in your theoretical statement.
Free market and profit are terms used to describe the voluntary act of commerce. No business I ever dealt with threatened me with violence or incarceration if I chose to NOT do business with them. Try that with the Infernal Revenue Service. No business ever sent me a letter stating that I must purchase their product or service. The free market runs on profit, yes, but it is strictly voluntary.

[waterboy7375]

Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey

But how is that fair to consumers?

The consumer gets a product they want. Without profit there is no motive for someone to make that product that the consumer wants.

[nononsenseguy]

Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey

Libertarians say tax is theft, but they support the free market. What they fail to realize is that the free market runs on one principle: Profit. Profit is theoretically theft. According to natural law, to exceed income to expenditure, is a form of gimmick. This could be regarded as theft.


You can't have it both ways.

What book did you get that out of?

Without profit, nobody would create anything. For what reason would anyone want to put time and effort into something if they weren't going to receive something in return? What fantasy world are you living in?

[Jerseyt719]

Consumers have a choice when buying products. They choose to buy. Not theft.

Taxes and how they spend is not our choice.

There's the difference.