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Old 10-13-2012, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Eric Nordstrom ASSUMED that the denial of his request meant there would be too much "political cost." He clearly says he "determined" but does not offer any proof at all.....Charlene Lamb didn't say that. This is absolutely nothing but his assumption, and he cleverly used the word "determined" rather than "assumed" for the people who are not detail oriented.
So what has been going on these past weeks, if it's not political? I'm starting to determine exactly what Nordstrom was, since there does not seem to be any legitimate reasoning behind what the White house is doing, unless it's politically motivated some how.

As to 0bama claiming he knew nothing about security, did he not get a daily security brief about the Libyan terror attack on British embassy vehicle, or other attacks? Did 0bama forget he blew the **** out of Libya, and dissolved their government and army, and that it is a very dangerous place, and warranted increased security w/o his having to be told?

In May and June 2012, there were a number of attacks against Western interests in Libya. A British Embassy convoy was attacked in Benghazi on 11 June. A parked empty British Embassy vehicle was targeted by a grenade in Sabha late on 8 June and a bomb exploded near the US Consulate in Benghazi on 6 June.

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Old 10-13-2012, 01:09 PM
 
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So what has been going on these past weeks, if it's not political? I'm starting to determine exactly what Nordstrom was, since there does not seem to be any legitimate reasoning behind what the White house is doing, unless it's politically motivated some how.

As to 0bama claiming he knew nothing about security, did he not get a daily security brief about the Libyan terror attack on British embassy vehicle, or other attacks? Did 0bama forget he blew the **** out of Libya, and dissolved their government and army, and that it is a very dangerous place, and warranted increased security w/o his having to be told?

In May and June 2012, there were a number of attacks against Western interests in Libya. A British Embassy convoy was attacked in Benghazi on 11 June. A parked empty British Embassy vehicle was targeted by a grenade in Sabha late on 8 June and a bomb exploded near the US Consulate in Benghazi on 6 June.

Libya travel advice
How do you know specifically what is discussed in security briefings? The issue here has become the denial of additional security in Tripoli and Benghazi.

Yes, this is political NOW because the Republicans have made it a political issue in their lust for the White House. House Oversight Committee Chairman, Issa, and his co-chair have made certain of that. There was/is no cover up. The issue is the denial of additional security, which falls under the State Department, Diplomatic Security and Foreign Missions section.
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Isn't it absolutely amazing just what this president isn't aware of?

Only Nixon and Watergate trump this president on deniability issues.....

Well, then there's Clinton, a president who doesn't know what "sex" really means....
According to the left, 0bama is:

1) Is dizzy and tires due to altitude changes and cannot perform in debates

2) He is too polite to respond to people who lie to him, so he refuses to challenge them and remains silent

3) He is insecure and has feelings of inferiority, and remains passive, so as not to come off as an angry black man

4) He is unaware that a country he just blew to hell, might be an unstable place and he needs to increase security for his ambassador, since he destroyed their form of government and their military, unless someone holds his hands and tells him so

5) Is easily duped into believing falsehoods about the Benghazi attack, even when most of the country, that does not have intel briefs at the presidential level, already has caught on to the falsehoods and misinformation.

And the left wants to reelect him.
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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How do you know specifically what is discussed in security briefings? The issue here has become the denial of additional security in Tripoli and Benghazi.

Yes, this is political NOW because the Republicans have made it a political issue in their lust for the White House. House Oversight Committee Chairman, Issa, and his co-chair have made certain of that. There was/is no cover up. The issue is the denial of additional security, which falls under the State Department, Diplomatic Security and Foreign Missions section.
Well, it is one of two things:

1) The president is easily duped. The entire intel community was in cahoots, and purposely misleading the president and the White house with false information, or was allowing the misinformation and falsehoods to occur unchallenged.

or

2) Or the president was fully aware that he and his admin were misleading the American people, and the world, for the past month

Which is it?

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Old 10-13-2012, 01:17 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Benghazi Attack Caught On Tape; Drone Also Shot Video...

But clown bozo and buffoon Biden didn't know anything. Ha!
Guess when needed be, they have a lapse of memory. How convenient. But if this story was something good and positive, how much you want to bet, thieir memeory would be right on target. and they would be there to get their pat on the back.

Which seems this administration only seems to remember those things that are positive, why is that. Your the one running the show, didn't know, then you a lousy businessman. Make it your point to gosh dang know, days earlier, things were not looking good in the region.

We have not had a dead Ambassador since the seventies, someone needs explaining.

Any other administration, this issue would have received more televised news conferences. But the slanted bias ass media, lets this important issue go, i resent this.

This administration is only about blaming others, and looking good to Hollyweird Celebrities, Musicians, and Night Time Show Talk Host.
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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It goes right back to the entire Rev. Wright issue

1) Either 0bma was counting ceiling tiles during twenty years of Rev. Wright's sermons, and was oblivious to who and what his spiritual mentor was

or

2) He knew full well what Rev. Wright was about, heard his sermons, and either agreed with them, or ignored, and deceived the public about it all

or

3) He joined the church to score political points with the black community, and he either agreed or disagreed with Wright's sermons, but remained in the church for political gains.

It keeps going back to either 0bama is an incurious boob, a incompetent ignoramus, who is oblivious to all around him or everyone else around him duping him and playing him for the fool.

Which is it???
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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How do you know specifically what is discussed in security briefings? The issue here has become the denial of additional security in Tripoli and Benghazi.
A terror attack on a British embassy vehicle, along with all the other attacks are of grave security concerns, along with the pleas by the ambassador for increased security... and you want me to believe that our intel community did not think that warranted informing the president in even one presidential daily briefing?????

Keep in mind, 0bama's aid said he was the most sophisticated consumer of intelligence information on the planet.

Vietor’s reply is quite revealing. It is apparently a point of pride in the White House that Obama’s PDB is “not briefed to him.” In the eyes of this administration, it is a virtue that the president does not meet every day with senior intelligence officials. This president, you see, does not need briefers. He can forgo his daily intelligence meeting because he is, in Vietor’s words, “among the most sophisticated consumers of intelligence on the planet.”

Marc Thiessen: Obama alone: This president does not need intel briefers - The Washington Post

We go from the most sophisticated consumer to being completely oblivious when it comes to the consuming of intelligence.

Which is it libs????
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:52 PM
 
Location: High Cotton
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Guess when needed be, they have a lapse of memory. How convenient. But if this story was something good and positive, how much you want to bet, thieir memeory would be right on target. and they would be there to get their pat on the back.

Which seems this administration only seems to remember those things that are positive, why is that. Your the one running the show, didn't know, then you a lousy businessman. Make it your point to gosh dang know, days earlier, things were not looking good in the region.

We have not had a dead Ambassador since the seventies, someone needs explaining.

Any other administration, this issue would have received more televised news conferences. But the slanted bias ass media, lets this important issue go, i resent this.

This administration is only about blaming others, and looking good to Hollyweird Celebrities, Musicians, and Night Time Show Talk Host.
So true - sadly for all Americans...
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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[FancyFeast5000;26495646]How do you know specifically what is discussed in security briefings?
Errr, Obama doesn't even know what is discussed in security briefings because he doesn't attend them!!!! Maybe there is a memo discussing the situation floating around in cyberspace and that's why his briefing memo never reached his iPad??
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Yes, this is political NOW because the Republicans have made it a political issue in their lust for the White House. House Oversight Committee Chairman, Issa, and his co-chair have made certain of that. There was/is no cover up. The issue is the denial of additional security, which falls under the State Department, Diplomatic Security and Foreign Missions section.
You are making a definitive statement: There was/is no cover up. Can you actually provide proof there is no cover up? I mean ACTUAL proof.

The republicans are holding hearings to see if there is any proof, but you seem to have something that can clear up the whole matter and put it to rest. If you have proof why don't you submit it so that Obama & company doesn't have to go through all of this. If you don't have proof and the WH is not covering up anything then they have nothing to worry about with the hearings.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Guess when needed be, they have a lapse of memory. How convenient. But if this story was something good and positive, how much you want to bet, thieir memeory would be right on target. and they would be there to get their pat on the back.

Which seems this administration only seems to remember those things that are positive, why is that. Your the one running the show, didn't know, then you a lousy businessman. Make it your point to gosh dang know, days earlier, things were not looking good in the region.

We have not had a dead Ambassador since the seventies, someone needs explaining.

Any other administration, this issue would have received more televised news conferences. But the slanted bias ass media, lets this important issue go, i resent this.

This administration is only about blaming others, and looking good to Hollyweird Celebrities, Musicians, and Night Time Show Talk Host.
There are three things this administration remembers:
1. The Good. Well that's pretty easy, because there isn't much to be said there.
2. The Bad. Total memory lapse.
3. Obama's golf handicap.
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