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Old 10-17-2012, 01:11 PM
 
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News, Smokers In California City Face $100 Fine For Smoking In Apartment, Condo.

John, you scooped yourself.
This started in 2009.

Do communities have the right to pass laws, certainly.
It was unanimous.
Your rights end where mine begin.
No they don't!
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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Man, politics in California are to the extreme and the state is becoming increasingly a police state.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:48 PM
 
Location: AL
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The gestapo (EPA) will be knocking on doors one day and for all you people who think this idea of big govt. is a good thing...remember one day they WILL do something you don't like.
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Old 10-17-2012, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Good! I hope California passes this statewide.
Why?
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:40 PM
 
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How could this be enforced? Have camera's watching people?


(Reuters) - A San Francisco suburb on Monday banned smoking in duplexes, condominiums and other multi-family homes, with city leaders saying they hoped to lead a wave of such regulations across California and ultimately the country.

The City Council in San Rafael, a community of 57,000 people about 15 miles north of San Francisco, voted unanimously for the ban, following a handful of other California municipalities that have outlawed smoking in buildings with as few as two units.

[URL="http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/16/us-usa-california-smoking-idUSBRE89F05W20121016"]California city bans smoking in multi-family homes | Reuters[/URL]
It is sad that it has come to this, but tobacco-addicts are a recalicitrant lot who don't tpically give a damn about anyone or anything above stocking their nicotine addiction. It was made inevitable by their own actions.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:42 PM
 
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John, you scooped yourself.
This started in 2009.

Do communities have the right to pass laws, certainly.
It was unanimous.
Your rights end where mine begin.
Precisely. Something smokers don't, and seem incapable, of "getting". Well, the law will "get it" for them.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:43 PM
 
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Why?
Return and preserve the rights of the non-addicted who are assaulted daily by nictotine-addicts who think the world is one big ashtrash/air-filter.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:46 PM
 
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No they don't!
Actually, that is a long-standing tennant of law. You can scream at the top of your lungs that Obama is great, but don't think that includes the rights to scream into somebody's ear.

You can walk down a sidewalk all you wish, but you can't barge into other people. Their right NOT to be barged into mdifies your right, slightly.

You're on the wrong side of long-standing law on this one.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:52 PM
 
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laws will not change people from circumventing rules. If a landlord wont enforce their own policies and neighbors are not sympethetic to your cause, its time to move.
Calling the police to enforce a smoking ban and clogging the courts is a tragic waste of taxpayer dollars.
I hardly describe protecting innocent peole from toxic tobacco-effluent they wish, and havea right not to be forcibly exposed to "waste(ful)". But then, I am not a slave to tobacco.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:55 PM
 
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you are partially correct. if the substance he is smoking is illegal you would have a case, but since it is not you dont.

goverments, states and communities need to stop acting like nanny's and start doing the job they were elected to do or get out of the office.
Protecting the rights of the "innocent" is a legitmate function of government, and just because something is legal, doesn't mean lawful and reasonable restriction on its use aren't or shouldn't be implemented.

For example, trying walking down the street with a bottle of Jack Daniels at the swill.
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