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Marx: From those according to their abilities, to those according to their needs.
In Communism, it's not that there are no factories or businesses. They are not privately owned is the difference. Obama made it clear what he thinks of business ownership -- "if you own a business, you didn't build that business, others did".
Obama believes that the government is the reason for any business's existence. No one should get rich from owning a business, no one should financially profit from owning a business. The government should control not only the wealth, redistritute it as it decides, but the government should control the factories, the means of production. That's why it's not at all inconsistent that Obama would decide to have the government "invest" in big corporations using taxpayer money -- and his agenda definitely was to have the government gain some control over them in the process.
Marx: From those according to their abilities, to those according to their needs.
In Communism, it's not that there are no factories or businesses. They are not privately owned is the difference. Obama made it clear what he thinks of business ownership -- "if you own a business, you didn't build that business, others did".
Obama believes that the government is the reason for any business's existence. No one should get rich from owning a business, no one should financially profit from owning a business. The government should control not only the wealth, redistritute it as it decides, but the government should control the factories, the means of production. That's why it's not at all inconsistent that Obama would decide to have the government "invest" in big corporations using taxpayer money -- and his agenda definitely was to have the government gain some control over them in the process.
IMO Obama is closer to a Communist than Socialist, though most refer to him as a statist.
Obama made it clear what he thinks of business ownership -- "if you own a business, you didn't build that business, others did".
If you can't properly read a quotation I have no idea how you could ever get through the turgid writings of Karl Marx to have slightest clue as to what constitute Marxist theory.
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Obama believes that the government is the reason for any business's existence.
There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive.
Somebody invested in roads and bridges -- If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that.
[the "didn't build that refers to roads and bridges" he reiterates the point with the reference to the internet]
Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.
If you can't properly read a quotation I have no idea how you could ever get through the turgid writings of Karl Marx to have slightest clue as to what constitute Marxist theory.
There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive.
Somebody invested in roads and bridges -- If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that.
[the "didn't build that refers to roads and bridges" he reiterates the point with the reference to the internet]
Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.
Why am I wasting my time with this
I don't know [shrug]. Maybe because you've bought into it?
By the same token, you can't look up the definition of intelligence, and expect to find...well...any condervatives in this forum that fit those definitions exactly.
Oh, and you do. Start with spelling the word correctly, then maybe we can talk about your blanket judgment of all who hold different views.
Marx: From those according to their abilities, to those according to their needs.
In Communism, it's not that there are no factories or businesses. They are not privately owned is the difference. Obama made it clear what he thinks of business ownership -- "if you own a business, you didn't build that business, others did".
Obama believes that the government is the reason for any business's existence. No one should get rich from owning a business, no one should financially profit from owning a business. The government should control not only the wealth, redistritute it as it decides, but the government should control the factories, the means of production. That's why it's not at all inconsistent that Obama would decide to have the government "invest" in big corporations using taxpayer money -- and his agenda definitely was to have the government gain some control over them in the process.
If this is true then Obama is about 30 years to late...There are no factories left. All production is been sent abroad. There is not much to control. Like all ideology geeks they get institutionalized at an early age. With institutional thought they go into a time freeze...the world moves on - things change..they stay the same and do not adapt. Ideology becomes like a religion. Real socialists and communists are live modestly...American ones like the finer things in life. I don't see any authentic commies in the picture..they might inflict their ideology on others but they will not walk the walk - they live in luxury and expect others to do with out.
Obama gave almost a trillion dollars to Wall Street.
If you think that = Communism, then I have no time nor patience to school you.
That was a worthy goal.
That and the Goldman Sachs Administration he has.
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