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Obama did nationalize the auto industry, remember?
Was Bush.
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Originally Posted by brajohns81
Yes I want to see lower unemployment, less homeless, happier people, etc. We have been able to achieve these things and advance our nation the last 200 years without resorting to communism. Communism has never even achieved any of these things period. Communism looks good on paper, but it has never worked on people. The CPUSA did endorse Obama, that says something.
No, I was hoping he would be a president more like Clinton was.
Clinton raised taxes (a level Obama wants the taxes to be), and doesn't think that keeping capital gains below income tax rate is a good idea.
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Communism has been explained.
Of course. That credit goes to Karl Marx. But, I'm questioning your understanding of it, especially when you believe it to be...
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It is government ownership of business and industry, good and services, the nations' media, the breakdown of social classes, and the government distribution of wealth.
The last one is rather cute though. Wasn't Obama labeled as one for distribution of wealth when you claim to have voted for him?
That said, would you mind (also) explaining what is this "government distribution of wealth" with concrete example?
Yet Obama thinks taking from the rich will help the poor. How is creating more poor going to help? I think this guy had a good question that was never answered by Obama:
Your wording is wrong. Your statement says that Obama is some sort of Robin Hood stealing from the rich. Having the rich pay more in taxes is not "giving to the poor". Like everyone else, roughly 20% of their taxes will go Defense/military spending, 20% to Social Security (which, I suppose they do not need), 21% to Medicare/Medicaid, 13% to Safety Net programs, 6% to pay down National debt, with the remainder going towards "other": Veterans benefits, research, education, etc. Their taxes would be distributed just like everyone else's, not redistributed directly to the poor.
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Originally Posted by Miborn
NO IT MAKES THOSE WHO THINK SOMETHING is going on Aware and Coherent unlike the obama supporters
Translation: It makes sense to those who have convinced themselves that something is going on, when, in fact, something is not. It is called paranoia. I think my neighbor eats cat food. I have no proof, but I have seen him with cans of cat food. So therefore I think he is eating cat food. Makes about as much sense, doesn't it?
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But communism does still exist. There are people still out there pushing for communism. Communism is not dead.
Sure, but not in enough numbers to be taken seriously, let alone as a threat. And, just because some Americans identify as Communists does not mean that Obama is one. If he had any ties to Communist thought, they would have been front page news items all across America prior to the 2008 election.
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Originally Posted by seahawkgirl
Bailing out private businesses is part of a Communist agenda. Within Communism, as the government is grown, the more money and control is cycled through industries. Communists have the belief that the government should be relied on for everything, including businesses and jobs, by the people. Having these private businesses rely and owe the government goes perfectly with trying to increase Communism in America. I am assuming that you are thinking that since obama invested in private corporations, it proves that he is a Capitalist. Not true because he wants the government to keep these companies running. And it is not working because he is trying to destroy a free market in America. The reason that Communist China is doing so well is because they are taking on more of the Capitalist ideals of American business. I wish obama would too.
So what is it when the Big Private Businesses control the Government?
Your wording is wrong. Your statement says that Obama is some sort of Robin Hood stealing from the rich. Having the rich pay more in taxes is not "giving to the poor". Like everyone else, roughly 20% of their taxes will go Defense/military spending, 20% to Social Security (which, I suppose they do not need), 21% to Medicare/Medicaid, 13% to Safety Net programs, 6% to pay down National debt, with the remainder going towards "other": Veterans benefits, research, education, etc. Their taxes would be distributed just like everyone else's, not redistributed directly to the poor.
Translation: It makes sense to those who have convinced themselves that something is going on, when, in fact, something is not. It is called paranoia. I think my neighbor eats cat food. I have no proof, but I have seen him with cans of cat food. So therefore I think he is eating cat food. Makes about as much sense, doesn't it?
Sure, but not in enough numbers to be taken seriously, let alone as a threat. And, just because some Americans identify as Communists does not mean that Obama is one. If he had any ties to Communist thought, they would have been front page news items all across America prior to the 2008 election.
So what is it when the Big Private Businesses control the Government?
Big private business has given millions to Obama and Democrats as well. This is a bipartisan issue. I have shown how Obama is a communist in the OP. Maybe you can explain that part where Obama outright calls for government ownership of media and wealth. The government robbing people to take anything is not right. They are taking their money. Being rich and successful is not a crime you know? You guys don't mind Hollywood and these other wealthy Democrats out there(who outnumber wealthy Republicans)but then you act like being rich is so evil.
Big private business has given millions to Obama and Democrats as well. This is a bipartisan issue. I have shown how Obama is a communist in the OP. Maybe you can explain that part where Obama outright calls for government ownership of media and wealth. The government robbing people to take anything is not right. They are taking their money. Being rich and successful is not a crime you know? You guys don't mind Hollywood and these other wealthy Democrats out there(who outnumber wealthy Republicans)but then you act like being rich is so evil.
You haven't shown anything but other people from the fringe ranting.
Translation: It makes sense to those who have convinced themselves that something is going on, when, in fact, something is not. It is called paranoia. I think my neighbor eats cat food. I have no proof, but I have seen him with cans of cat food. So therefore I think he is eating cat food. Makes about as much sense, doesn't it?
Sure, but not in enough numbers to be taken seriously, let alone as a threat. And, just because some Americans identify as Communists does not mean that Obama is one. If he had any ties to Communist thought, they would have been front page news items all across America prior to the 2008 election.
So what is it when the Big Private Businesses control the Government?
I forgot to mention this fact as well: Do you really think that Obama is going to admit to being a communist or socialist when most Americans look down on both???
He ain't a commie, people. He's also not a socialist. Calling him either is just a display of ignorance and sounds like a bunch of 5-year old's calling names on the playground. "Oh yeah? Well you... you... you're a commie!" Sorry, but keep looking under your beds if it makes you feel better. While your looking for Obama grab a mop and do something useful.... like dust.
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