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Old 10-19-2012, 10:36 AM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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what does that have to do with anything. if someone says they dont agree with MR. Obama on tax policy you claim it is racists.

geez.

I am a white southern male. I defy you to find anything I have ever said that was racists.
A hit dog will holler...everytime.
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:42 AM
 
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From day 1 Mr. Obama made it clear what he was giong to do. Those things are antithetical to repbulican POLICY. Why would republicans support someone whos policy views are diametrically opposed to their beliefs?

geez.
Well, at least you are honest enough to say that they never gave him a chance and never tried to work with him.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Poll: Most Americans Oppose Obamacare - The Daily Beast


56 percent of people are against the health-care law, and 44 people are in favor of it.
There are other polls that show differently. Many people support individual parts of the law. Despite the snide comments here on CD about allowing young adults to stay on their parents' policy until age 26, this is in fact one of the most popular parts of the ACA. Many people also support the pre-existing condition part of it, and as a pediatric nurse, I can assure you that most people like the "no co-pay for immunizations" portion of the ACA.

BTW, the Daily Beast blew it with the Supreme Court decision, didn't they?
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:56 AM
 
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Yes, Mitch McConnell said it best, all the Republicans care about is making Obama a one term president, that is their highest priority over everything else in this country.
That is NOT what McConnell said.

If you are going to make a claim at least get the quote right, with a link to back it up.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:58 AM
 
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There are other polls that show differently. Many people support individual parts of the law. Despite the snide comments here on CD about allowing young adults to stay on their parents' policy until age 26, this is in fact one of the most popular parts of the ACA. Many people also support the pre-existing condition part of it, and as a pediatric nurse, I can assure you that most people like the "no co-pay for immunizations" portion of the ACA.

BTW, the Daily Beast blew it with the Supreme Court decision, didn't they?


Never seen nor heard of one, ever.
You must mean one taken at DNC Headquarters.
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Old 10-19-2012, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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There are other polls that show differently. Many people support individual parts of the law. Despite the snide comments here on CD about allowing young adults to stay on their parents' policy until age 26, this is in fact one of the most popular parts of the ACA. Many people also support the pre-existing condition part of it, and as a pediatric nurse, I can assure you that most people like the "no co-pay for immunizations" portion of the ACA.

BTW, the Daily Beast blew it with the Supreme Court decision, didn't they?
Approving of certain parts of the law and approving of the entire law are totally different things. I have yet to find a poll that shows the majority of Americans approve of Obamacare overall. If you know of one that shows this majority approval, please link to it.
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Old 10-19-2012, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Never seen nor heard of one, ever.
You must mean one taken at DNC Headquarters.
Republicans Start to Panic as ObamaCare Reaches 50% Approval
Two weeks after Yooperkat's poll.

Just in time for the 4th of July:
10 Reasons Most People Like Obamacare Once They Know What's Really In It | Alternet

Pew Poll: Public Approval Of 'Obamacare' Above Water | TPM LiveWire
A month later.

RE: Young adults on their parents' plans:
GOP Lawmakers Divided On Keeping Obamacare's Young Adult Insurance Provision
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Old 10-19-2012, 12:13 PM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Yes! I think the hatred started the night he was elected.

Actually, it started well before that. The haters were active during the 2008 primary campaigns. Do you recall Limbaugh's "operation chaos" where he encouraged his GOP listeners to go out and vote for Hillary in their states' primary elections?
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Old 10-19-2012, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Wow, I only had to check the first one to find a flaw in your logic. The CNN poll that is linked to in your story asks the following question:

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As you may know, on Thursday the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that provision of the health care law
is constitutional, allowing nearly all of the proposals in the health care law to take effect. In
general, do you agree or disagree with the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in that case?
50% of people asked agreed with the decision that the law is constitutional. The poll never asked if they approved of the law itself. However, respondents were asked if they were pleased with the decision, and 51% of them were either displeased or angry with the decision.

I didn't even bother checking the rest, since you apparently didn't either...
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Old 10-19-2012, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Wow, I only had to check the first one to find a flaw in your logic. The CNN poll that is linked to in your story asks the following question:



50% of people asked agreed with the decision that the law is constitutional. The poll never asked if they approved of the law itself. However, respondents were asked if they were pleased with the decision, and 51% of them were either displeased or angry with the decision.

I didn't even bother checking the rest, since you apparently didn't either...
I sure as hell did! Here are some snippets:

Link #1: Republicans Start to Panic as ObamaCare Reaches 50% Approval
**According to a new CNN poll, Americans are still divided on ObamaCare. Fifty percent of those surveyed agreeing with the Supreme Court’s decision to uphold the law, while 49% disagreed. . . . Support for the ACA has increased from 34% in the fall of 2011 to 43% before the Supreme Court decision to 50% supporting the court’s decision today. . . . When pressured by Chris Wallace of Fox News Sunday on what he was going to do about the uninsured if he repealed the ACA, Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell got flustered and stated that the uninsured in America aren’t an issue.

Link #2:
**A recent poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation found Americans split down the middle, with 41 percent approving of the law, and 40 percent saying they didn't like it ( PDF). But then Kaiser asked about 12 specific provisions in the legislation, and found that, on average, 63 percent of respondents approved of the nuts and bolts of Obamacare. Of the 12 measures they tested, only one – the controversial mandate to carry health insurance or pay a penalty – received the approval of less than half of Americans (35 percent).

Link #3:
**More Americans approve than disapprove of the Affordable Care Act, a new poll from Pew Research Center shows.

The poll, released Thursday, shows that 47 percent of respondents approve of the legislation passed by Congress and signed into law by President Barack Obama in 2010, while 43 percent disapprove. That marks only the second time since April 2010 — when Pew started tracking support for the law — that approval of the Affordable Care Act is above water.


Link #4:
**WASHINGTON -- Congressional Republicans may not have been happy about the Supreme Court's ruling upholding the Affordable Care Act, but many of their children probably are.

According to an analysis by The Huffington Post, dozens of Republicans who want to repeal Obamacare have adult children who are allowed to stay on their parents' health plans thanks to the law, which extended this benefit nationwide. Many of the lawmakers' children are employed and on their own health care plans, but others continue to take advantage of their parents' coverage.


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