Caucasian club in High School (examples, claim, nationality, Arizona)

[texanborn]

Originally Posted by tinasgt2005

Thank You,
I think I will let him know that American Club is a better name. It will get enough attention already but at least the name will be more Politically Correct.

don't worry about PC...

[Nea1]

Originally Posted by johnrex62

Just my two cents worth. Although I completed college without the assistance of aid other than a small first year scholarship, there are many white men in America that do not. I find your quote to be quite illuminating in that there are significant numbers of white people commonly referred to as "White Trash" and other pejorative terms that are anything but "okay".

Is this because they are somehow incapable of bettering themselves? If we look at their circumstance and compare that to other minority americans in similar situations why do we then think they can perform with our extra assistance when the white trash guy could not?

People of all colors, creed and religious beliefs find themselves in situations they either cannot or do not know how to free themselves from and live depressingly unproductive lives. If we look at any racial group and determine that they have a higher rate of unproductivity, why is that automatically due to less opportunity? Why isn't it just as likely that they are as lazy as the "poor white trash"?

I am not sure what point an American Club or a Caucasian Club would fulfill, even if attempted just as an irony against other racial based organizations. I consider every organization that bases it's membership on race to be inherently racist by definition. I think those that select their membership based on race to accomplish race progressive agendas to be especially distasteful regardless of the race being promoted.

I am not one of the "ultra-liberal" guys mentioned earlier, but I do believe that people can live color free if all the people work toward that end. Promotion of extra benefits for those born one color, or following a specific religion, or immigrating from a certain locale is only divisive and leads to conflict with those who are denied the same opportunities. There is no such thing as equalizing compensatory discrimination as any discrimination only leads to reflexive efforts to counter that discriminatory practice.

Quotas lead to frustration and artificial requirements as barriers to the quota system. Diversification works well if all participants are considered equals. When one participate is singled out for special treatment, all the others are resentful of that treatment and will tend to devise ways to become even again.

Thank you for saying that so nicely. I agree.

[wehotex]

Originally Posted by tinasgt2005

Exactly my point. If my son walked into any of the other clubs, Foul play would be called. So it is not about African America, Mexican American. It is about black, mexican, etc

are you so sure about that? i think that at this point, you really don't know how tht club might react.

[texanborn]

I'm thinking about joining LULAC.

[tinasgt2005]

"White man, you're gonna be okay!"[/quote]

I find that extremly offensive. I started this thread to get feedback. Not to be called a racist and not to be insulted and that is what you have done. Why sons intention is not to create segregation his intent is to create a club that is American. I did not use the right wording when I started this thread but I have corrected myself numerous times. Not based on religion, sex, or ethiticity. It is not African-American, Mexican-American, or Asian- American. It is just AMERICAN. This includes people of all walks of life. As adults we know we can walk into a club and join but it is much harder for a child to walk into a room where he or she will stand out. Kids are cruel and unforgiving IMO if a white kid walked into a room that is intended to promote black bride or mexican pride they will not be well recieved. My kids do not see color they see injustice and an act that has become biased. These clubs say it themselves, they use the color card. Black pride, Chicano pride. But believe me if someone said white pride all heck would break lose. It is a doublt standard.
I like a good debate but when you become insulting then we have a problem

[TriMT7]

"Caucasian Club" sounds stupid. "Caucasian" means more than just "white skin" as well, technically.

If you or your kid really wants to stir the pot, they can start a "European American Club."

[ProLogic]

I would be interested to know what a Caucasian Club would do? A town like mine with a racist past could never have a Caucasian club. The KKK used to have meetings at our adult school. 0.0'

[tinasgt2005]

If everyone read all the posts, I made it clear that I was trying to be politically correct. Of course he could never call it a Caucasian club. The opening line got your attention though.

[TriMT7]

Originally Posted by ProLogic

I would be interested to know what a Caucasian Club would do? A town like mine with a racist past could never have a Caucasian club. The KKK used to have meetings at our adult school. 0.0'

Well, I mean, to me clubs such as "La Raza" and such are racist nationalist clubs only different from the KKK in the fact that they lack the power or history to act on their racist points of view.

Culture-based clubs that celebrate cultures are fine.... but some clubs just go way overboard, and should not be tolerated.

[ProLogic]

Being Mexican myself, I agree with groups like La Raza and meCha are brown supremicist groups. I don't affiliate with them.