Caucasian club in High School (illegal aliens, voted, Florida, flag)

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by gizmo980

Yes, I ditto the above answer. First of all, there is no common bond among "Caucasians", which is really a generic term for lacking in pigment (j/k). What do I, as a Jewish-Slavic Californian, have in common with a German-Baptist from Arkansas? Maybe a few things, but only by chance & certainly not by cultural bonds. Whether or not all Hispanics/Asians/African-Americans have the same background, they have the common bond of being part of a minority group... as a Jew I have some understanding of that, being that I'm often on the outside looking into an Aryan-dominant society. Once you've been pushed aside or REALLY discriminated against, things like a cultural club make more sense.

And the ultimate irony is that arguably the safest place for Jewish people in the world is the land of the original Aryan swastika toters---------Hindus in India.

Anyway, I agree that nobody would have a problem with a culturally-specific (German, Irish, Russian, etc.) club - but to deem it a "White club" is just too close to "White pride" and all of that nonsense. And as Anchorless said, people are welcomed to join the other clubs, even if they aren't of the specific ethnicity... they're intended to increase awareness and cultural pride, not to be exclusive towards anyone else. But when was the last time a "White pride" convention was welcoming to Black & Hispanic visitors? I've been to many African-American cultural activities, and even led a few on Hispanic culture; but ironically, I would be chased away from most White events, once they realized my WHITE ancestors were all Jews. Okay, sorry to ramble, but this is a tricky subject!

I have a Mexican friend of mine; very proud of being Mexican (born/raised/lived SOB); all four of his grandparents immigrated from Russia. And; yes, this gentleman is an observant Jew in his own words.

As for the so-called 'White Pride' thing; what gets to me is many of the above hide behind 'Christianity'-------yet, Jesus Christ was Jewish.

[bily4]

Originally Posted by Nea1

My Irish family did come over here during the famine and did experience the discrimination. And my father and his parents came over from Germany during WW2 to escape persecution for being friends of the Jewish but some of my family did not make it out. So my family does know about discrimination.

Well good for them! As did mine! That is why I try to be a little sensitive to issues of discimination that exist today in our society.

[jgrayson]

Sometime encouragement helps. Please visit www.onlineencouragement (broken link)
and this will help everyone feel a little better and tell all your friends!

[Nea1]

Originally Posted by bily4

Well good for them! As did mine! That is why I try to be a little sensitive to issues of discimination that exist today in our society.

Yea discrimination all the way around. I have no issue with these groups, I just dont see why there cannot be an American group. Sometimes history class doesnt tell the whole story.

[TXboomerang]

Originally Posted by Anchorless

No, anyone and everyone is encouraged to join the various African American clubs.

As for the White Club agenda, no one has yet to explain that. The closest anyone has come is that they'd discuss American history and culture...which suggests that the Minority experience is not part of that history and culture (otherwise it wouldn't be a White Club)...which is partly why such a club is ridiculous (along with the oft-made argument that there isn't the common heritage amongst whites that there is among other minority groups).

But I do challenge anyone to explain what that agenda would be.

I also challenge some of you to join your local African American, Hispanic, and other community or student organizations. Maybe some of you can learn something about their heritage, their culture, their club agenda, and their particular racial/ethnic position in America today...instead of simply sitting on here talking out of your a$$es.

Here is what a 15 year old kid wanted to do at a high school in Oakley, CA, and then was ridiculed and called a racist so much that she had to transfer out of school because she felt very misunderstood and attacked:

She had planned for the club to be open to everyone, "a kind of comfortable place," she said in an interview late last month, where students of all backgrounds could talk about race -- with an emphasis on European history -- and how her "whiteness" affects those who aren't white.

The club would go to museums, have fund-raisers, invite speakers.

Besides that, who are you to say what is or what isn't relevant for their studies. Maybe a group would like to study the hardships of their ancestors in getting here, and living through poverty and hardships after they got here. My family on my father's side came over here dirt poor, a mixture of European backgrounds. They farmed for the food they ate, and often had to eat once a day in order to make food last through the winter. Maybe I'd like to study more of what they went through, what the specifics of their life an culture were and how they contrast to today's culture.

And as long as the group was inviting and welcoming to any other race or group that wanted to take part, frankly it is 100% completely irrelavant if they do want to study American history. The garbage that is prepackaged and spoonfed to American school students does not really cover very much. There is far more than any school textbook will ever cover, and there should be no problem with those who would like to look deeper into their roots.

Anyone who has a problem with that is obviously racist.

[tinasgt2005]

It has become common for "White" people to e accussed of discrimination anytime they aspeak angainst a person of another color or national orgin. Ie; immigration, OJ Simpson, Michael Vicks, Los Angeles riots. It is not because they are all just crimminals it is just ole Whitey being racist. I am not saying that these clubs are not educating their members on culture but I have culture in my background. I would love to know about my Scottish culture or my Indian culture or my German culture. Is that racist?

[Kyusa]

im a minority, i dont see any problems with cacausian clubs.

[bily4]

Originally Posted by tinasgt2005

I am not saying that these clubs are not educating their members on culture but I have culture in my background. I would love to know about my Scottish culture or my Indian culture or my German culture. Is that racist?

No. Who is stopping you?

[tinasgt2005]

Originally Posted by bily4

No. Who is stopping you?

Did I say anyone is stopping me? Are not these threads on the debating of certain issues? That is what I created it for. To get feedback on this issue. My son will create this club. It will take him a year to get a members list, bi-laws, constitution, and subject matter. I wanted to know how people felt about this. I knew what some people would think on the issue so I am not surprised

[tinasgt2005]

And I would like to say that anyone who would give someone a bad Rep for having an opinion other than yours is chicken****. I have not been racist offensive or deragatory so why should I get a bad Rep. Hey Mod can you please let us know what the rules are for giving someone a Bad Rep?? I do not give a Bad Rep against anyone unless I attack them as a person.