Caucasian club in High School (nationalist, KKK, biased, religion)

[Anchorless]

Originally Posted by Alive

I appreciate your efforts, but this article is over 3 years old---a little out dated.

I put no effort into it. I simply did a google search.

But then again, I'm not the one with the problem.

And I am looking at 150K worth of student loans next year when I start law school, so believe me, I do care about scholarships. I just haven't had a problem finding any, but I blame my being white on that.

[grew-up-3rd-culture]

Originally Posted by Anchorless

I just haven't had a problem finding any, but I blame my being white on that.

ROFL Ridiculous! Ridiculous I say!

[dorado0359]

Originally Posted by Nea1

No I have no problem with it, I just havent located the clubs giving to only white people. Lord knows my son couldnt find this funding.

Huh...are you serious? Your son's needs aside, are you saying that you cannot see or just do not want to acknowledge that the majority of scholarships awarded in this country are awarded to White students. It's not that the scholarship programs themselves make a conscious effort to give these funds to the majority of white students, rather the fact that whites, as in American socitety as a whole, make up the majority of the applicants and therefore, receive the majority of scholarship recipients.

[Anchorless]

Originally Posted by Nea1

I am still trying to figure out why everything must be segregated? Why do we need a United Negro College fund or any other minority find? It should be based on needs and school performance. Why all the division? How are Americans suppose to feel a connection to anyone with this crap. Instead of how different we all are, how about focusing on what we have in common.

How does instituting scholarships based on merit and performance fit within your frame of wanting things to be common and not divided?

Seems like you're still distinguishing between groups of people.

That said, to answer your question - because people are diverse. They have a diverse set of backgrounds, needs, and interests. Scholarships serve all sorts of these backgrounds, needs, and interests, from the small town farming scholarships, to scholarships for women in the sciences, to scholarships for our best and brightest students.

Again, I don't see a problem. But let me ask: what is it exactly that you have a problem with? And why are you singling out the UNF, and not the millions of other specialized scholarships that are out there?

[Nea1]

Originally Posted by dorado0359

Huh...are you serious? Your son's needs aside, are you saying that you cannot see or just do not want to acknowledge that the majority of scholarships awarded in this country are awarded to White students. It's not that the scholarship programs themselves make a conscious effort to give these funds to the majority of white students, rather the fact that whites, as in American socitety as a whole, make up the majority of the applicants and therefore, receive the majority of scholarship recipients.

Just because you are white doesnt mean you will get one even if you have stellar grades. I know plenty that havent. But because some of my sons friends were minorities they did, just based on that. No does not seem fair at all. I think they should all be based on merit, not color or heritage.

[Anchorless]

Originally Posted by Alive

ROFL Ridiculous! Ridiculous I say!

How so....?

[Nea1]

Originally Posted by Anchorless

How does instituting scholarships based on merit and performance fit within your frame of wanting things to be common and not divided?

Seems like you're still distinguishing between groups of people.

That said, to answer your question - because people are diverse. They have a diverse set of backgrounds, needs, and interests. Scholarships serve all sorts of these backgrounds, needs, and interests, from the small town farming scholarships, to scholarships for women in the sciences, to scholarships for our best and brightest students.

Again, I don't see a problem. But let me ask: what is it exactly that you have a problem with? And why are you singling out the UNF, and not the millions of other specialized scholarships that are out there?

there will be merits based on these according to group, Which is fine, I am trying to figure out why some can get it based only on color or heritage which happened to my sons friends. UNCF is the only one I could think of at the moment.

[BetuliaJ]

Originally Posted by tinasgt2005

I asked my son what would the club focus on. This is the same question he has to answer before he can petition for the club. American has a long history. Revolutionary war, civil war, cowboys and indians, mayflower, etc. He also believes it might be a great incentive for other members to learn the history or geaniology( I know that isn't spelled right. Sry) of his and their ancenstors.

I'm an American, but I'm not white. Would I be able to join this club?

[BetuliaJ]

Originally Posted by Anchorless

I do agree with this:

"White man, you're gonna be okay!"

I agree with that too

[johnrex62]

Originally Posted by Anchorless

I do agree with this:

"White man, you're gonna be okay!"

Just my two cents worth. Although I completed college without the assistance of aid other than a small first year scholarship, there are many white men in America that do not. I find your quote to be quite illuminating in that there are significant numbers of white people commonly referred to as "White Trash" and other pejorative terms that are anything but "okay".

Is this because they are somehow incapable of bettering themselves? If we look at their circumstance and compare that to other minority americans in similar situations why do we then think they can perform with our extra assistance when the white trash guy could not?

People of all colors, creed and religious beliefs find themselves in situations they either cannot or do not know how to free themselves from and live depressingly unproductive lives. If we look at any racial group and determine that they have a higher rate of unproductivity, why is that automatically due to less opportunity? Why isn't it just as likely that they are as lazy as the "poor white trash"?

I am not sure what point an American Club or a Caucasian Club would fulfill, even if attempted just as an irony against other racial based organizations. I consider every organization that bases it's membership on race to be inherently racist by definition. I think those that select their membership based on race to accomplish race progressive agendas to be especially distasteful regardless of the race being promoted.

I am not one of the "ultra-liberal" guys mentioned earlier, but I do believe that people can live color free if all the people work toward that end. Promotion of extra benefits for those born one color, or following a specific religion, or immigrating from a certain locale is only divisive and leads to conflict with those who are denied the same opportunities. There is no such thing as equalizing compensatory discrimination as any discrimination only leads to reflexive efforts to counter that discriminatory practice.

Quotas lead to frustration and artificial requirements as barriers to the quota system. Diversification works well if all participants are considered equals. When one participate is singled out for special treatment, all the others are resentful of that treatment and will tend to devise ways to become even again.