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Old 10-23-2012, 04:36 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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That's what contraceptives and protection (condoms) are for. Murdering a living baby is not "reproductive rights."
That's your opinion, but the courts and more than 50% of Americans would disagree... particularly about your emotional use of the word "murder," when that isn't even scientifically honest.
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Old 10-23-2012, 04:44 PM
 
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And that's exactly why a lot of women won't vote for him.
He's not going to need those votes.

Doctors, put away those vacuums!
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Old 10-23-2012, 04:47 PM
 
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That's your opinion, but the courts and more than 50% of Americans would disagree... particularly about your emotional use of the word "murder," when that isn't even scientifically honest.
Don't worry, the tides are turning on that one.

As the Catholic Mexicans continue to procreate and the wacko White liberals of the 60's and 70's die off, we are going to have an interesting shift in social policy in this country.

Keep those borders porous Hussein!
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Old 10-23-2012, 05:27 PM
 
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A lot of liberals actually support having a window of time after birth when it's legal to kill your child.
complete and utter BS.
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Old 10-23-2012, 05:29 PM
 
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He's not going to need those votes.
when 48% of your voter population is women, yes he will need those votes.

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Doctors, put away those vacuums!
shows that you don't know how abortions are performed.
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Old 10-23-2012, 05:47 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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I'ts the economy, stupid!

Abortion stops a beating heart.
You know I have to roll my eyes at this. Not because it's not true (it is), but because of the hypocrites who say it.

Warmongering stops beating hearts; lack of adequate health care stops beating hearts. But you don't see "pro life" people getting up in arms about that, do you? No. They say the government must preserve the sanctity of life up to the very day that it's born, but if that same child is poor, or born with a health problem and the parents can do nothing but rely on government assistance, suddenly it's "socialism" and "theft" and a whole host of other things.

They say "oh, that's terrible, but you can't save everybody". yet if someone made that same comment about abortion, they'd be run out on a rail and ostracised. Unbelievable.

I'll never forget when I was at church one morning, and had someone actually try to make a biblical case that using tax money to help save someone's life was actually immoral because taxes are theft when used for that purpose. But they're not theft when used in war to kill other people because "the jews went to war in the old testament". It was everything I could do to hold my tongue.

Hypocrites.
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Old 10-23-2012, 07:17 PM
 
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complete and utter BS.
What do you think the "born alive" debate is all about. Babies that survive a botched abortion and what should be done with them. They want to be allowed to let them be put in the laundry room to die alone. Actually, this has been done before----who knows how many times but some nurses have told about it and one nurse told about holding one little baby until it died in her arms. Now I would certainly call this murder----no doubt about it.
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Old 10-23-2012, 07:19 PM
 
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You know I have to roll my eyes at this. Not because it's not true (it is), but because of the hypocrites who say it.

Warmongering stops beating hearts; lack of adequate health care stops beating hearts. But you don't see "pro life" people getting up in arms about that, do you? No. They say the government must preserve the sanctity of life up to the very day that it's born, but if that same child is poor, or born with a health problem and the parents can do nothing but rely on government assistance, suddenly it's "socialism" and "theft" and a whole host of other things.

They say "oh, that's terrible, but you can't save everybody". yet if someone made that same comment about abortion, they'd be run out on a rail and ostracised. Unbelievable.

I'll never forget when I was at church one morning, and had someone actually try to make a biblical case that using tax money to help save someone's life was actually immoral because taxes are theft when used for that purpose. But they're not theft when used in war to kill other people because "the jews went to war in the old testament". It was everything I could do to hold my tongue.

Hypocrites.
This is the big lie. Prolife people work hard for all like in all areas. Most are on the front line working on these.
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Old 10-23-2012, 07:25 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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This is the big lie. Prolife people work hard for all like in all areas. Most are on the front line working on these.

Sure they do. I have yet to see it. almost all of the pro-life people I've ever met have done nothing more than scrawl a message on a sign and stand on a street corner or vote for a "pro-life" candidate. Hardly a valiant effort when you could counsel women against abortion, or work to end circumstances that would encourage women to get an abortion in the first place. Nope. That requires too much work.

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Old 10-23-2012, 07:58 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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What do you think the "born alive" debate is all about. Babies that survive a botched abortion and what should be done with them. They want to be allowed to let them be put in the laundry room to die alone. Actually, this has been done before----who knows how many times but some nurses have told about it and one nurse told about holding one little baby until it died in her arms. Now I would certainly call this murder----no doubt about it.
I have no idea what that debate is about, because it's such a rare (and unlikely in legal early-term abortions) occurrence... you don't know how often it happens, as it probably is just an urban legend started by pro-lifers! For a "botched abortion" fetus to even be viable, it would have to be waaay past the stage of general/LEGAL abortion.
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