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Old 10-26-2012, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by theflipflop View Post
One Republican makes crazy statements about rape, and you malign and slander half of America with this thread? Is this a typical Democratic strategy, or just your misguidance? Sounds a bit desparate (as the numbers continue to show voters are making their choice, and it's not going to be for Barak Hussein)
The problem with this rebut is that it's not just one Republican...
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:11 PM
 
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It's not one Republican, it's an ever increasing group of extremist conservatives who continue to make these outlandish statements.
Definitely not just one: Wingnut Theories On Rape And The Female Body: A Taxonomy | The New Republic
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:18 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Hmmmmm....you just negated your whole argument.
Can we say its safe to say that you believe what you believe due to the fact that you are nothing more than a sexist pig?
Please feel free to refute my theory.
nope, i didnt negate my whole argument. feel free to explain how i did. id be negating it if i agreed to abortion in the cases of rape or incest. however, in the circumstance where a doctor knows that a birth would cause the mother's death, im not going to argue against that. honestly, i dont even see the point in arguing rape or incest but for some reason pro-choicers are obsessed with those circrumstances. 99% of abortions are for the parents' convenience, yet people spend sooooo much time talking about rape/incest/life of mother. compared to what happens now, if you cut out all abortions except for those 3 circumstances that pro-choicers repeat ad nauseum, it would be a large improvement over what we have today.
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:20 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Originally Posted by artemis agrotera View Post
So let me get this right.

You believe in gods will in rape, and said pregnancy
That there is no soul
That women should be forced to carry a soulless pregnancy to full term.

Haha. Nice work.
You can scurry back to under your bridge now
i dont know exactly what you mean by "you believe in gods will in rape" but im pretty sure you are wrong since i do not believe in any god.

ok, i dont belive in a soul.

ok, since i dont believe in a soul, i do believe a woman should have to carry a soulless child in her womb until she gives birth to it.
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Old 10-26-2012, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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That last segment.... What?
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Old 10-26-2012, 09:51 PM
 
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God allows things to happen. He does not intend for them to happen! The appropriate word was not used by Mourdock. Everyone has choices. Our behavior is up to us, not God.
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Old 10-26-2012, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I do indeed know G-d's view on abortion (in the Talmud). And you are indeed right, if the living baby inside it's mother is a threat to her life, there are tremendous leniencies that may be taken to save the mother's life at all cost. But I fail to see how a woman, 8 weeks after she has been raped, is in any danger? Perhaps her social life may be danger. Perhaps her checkbook. But her life? Sorry, but you failed to bring me a Torah proof supporting the view that woman can abort her baby, short of that baby killing the mother who is hosting it.
There's no proof of a god thing, so you know only what people wrote.
Not that there's a god at all.
I'm sure you'd all be posting proof of such a creature if there were any.
But, there's not. None. Zip. Nada. Zero.

So it's all about your "beliefs" and a convenient way to push control over women.
Don't want an abortion, don't have one, but don't play the invisible sky daddy card and expect us to roll over.
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Old 10-26-2012, 11:12 PM
 
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Are you aware of some concerted, organized, highly supported Republican effort to enact the hyperbolic scenario you described? Or are you just trying to leverage a fantastic but impossible scenario to gain some kind of political advantage with your scare tactics?

First the Democrats start a class war. That apparently failed to sway more than 47% of the public. So now you'll start a gender war with recycled but irrelevant abortion rhetoric? I'll bet you a dollar there will not be an abortion thread in the top 10 pages of this forum 1 year after the election concludes. This is simply election cycle rhetoric being used to scare weak minded voters into swaying from their voting convictions. But hey, win at all cost, right?
Yet, again, I will post this:
State Trends for 2011 on Abortion, Family Planning, Sex Education and Insurance
Laws Affecting Reproductive Health and Rights:
Trends in the First Quarter of 2011

To date, legislators have introduced 916 measures related to reproductive health and rights in the 49 legislatures that have convened their regular sessions. (Louisiana’s legislature will not convene until late April.) By the end of March, seven states had enacted 15 new laws on these issues, including provisions that:


916 laws against women and their health in one quarter in 2011.
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Old 10-27-2012, 08:00 AM
 
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I find the deafening silence from women Republicans on this issue extremely disturbing...and the party leadership as well. There should be education on this issue for these folks..it is like a throw back to decades ago...that "no" means..."yes"..and there really is no rape at all. Blame the victim mentality.

Republicans are for less government....so..stay out of the abortion issue. Let folks do what they want...
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Old 10-27-2012, 08:03 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Republicans are for less government....so..stay out of the abortion issue. Let folks do what they want...
if pro-life people dont oppose abortion on the basis of believing in small government then (to them) it would be equal to not believing in laws against murdering adults. i dont expect pro-choice people to agree with them but at least have a better understanding of their position. you guys have such ridiculous points but you all think they are so brilliant.
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