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Old 10-29-2012, 03:43 PM
 
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A good first start to turn some of these cities around would be to raise taxes on the poor that think they can live there for free. They use the buses, police, fire, schools, etc...but don't pay their fair share..Obama calls them "free riders". So if we want less of something, just tax it. Raise taxes on all the bad areas in these cities and watch the poor take the first bus out of town. Then give those areas to wealthy developers or individuals that will rebuild them.
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Old 10-29-2012, 03:50 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Morristown, TN a "city"? Yeah, ok.

Brownsville and McAllen are border metros, hardly surprising there. Albany, GA and Valdosta, GA went 70%+ for Obama last election. So, 4 out of the top 5 in that "city" list are overwhelmingly Democrat. This is not atypical, the poorest counties and cities in the South have always been extremely Democrat.
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:30 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Go ahead and keep voting for the Democrats and eventually we will all get to live in a city like those below.

City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level

1. Detroit , MI
32.5%

2. Buffalo , NY
29.9%

3. Cincinnati , OH
27.8%

4. Cleveland , OH
27.0%

5. Miami , FL
26.9%

5. St. Louis , MO
26.8%

7. El Paso , TX
26.4%

8. Milwaukee , WI
26.2%

9. Philadelphia , PA
25.1%

10. Newark , NJ
24.2%

What do the top ten cities (over 250,000 population) with the highest poverty rate all have in common?

Detroit, MI (1st)hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1957.

Buffalo , NY (2nd)hasn'telected a Republican mayor since 1962.

Cincinnati , OH (3rd)hasn'telected a Republican mayor since 1971.

Cleveland , OH (4th)hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1989.

Miami , FL (5th)hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1947.

St. Louis , MO (6th)hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1943.

El Paso , TX (7th)hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 2001.

Milwaukee , WI (8th)hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1908.

Philadelphia , PA (9th)hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1952.

Newark , NJ (10th)hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1928.


Einstein once said:

'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.'

10 richest cities based on Forbes magazine's listings:
1. San Jose, CA: Ultra-liberal, 69% voted for Obama in 2008
2. Anchorage, AK: Most liberal part of AK, 57.5% voted for Obama in 2008
3. San Francisco, CA: Probably the most liberal city in America, 84.2% voted for Obama in 2008
4. Virginia Beach, VA: Not a liberal place, but was still 50-50
5. San Diego, CA: Most conservative big city in California in some respects, 54.2% still voted for Obama in 2008
6. Anaheim, CA: Seat of a major conservative stronghold, yet the county only had 50.2% support for McCain with 47% going to Obama. This is not taking into account the far more conservative cities in Orange County outside of Anaheim.
7. Raleigh, NC: Can't find the city's exact voting record, but the two counties this city is a part of voted 57% for Obama in Wake county and 76% for Obama in Durham county.
8. Seattle, WA: Can't get the exact numbers, but Seattle was overwhelmingly voting for Obama in 2008. It's a highly liberal place.
9. Washington, DC: Duh. 92.46% voted for Obama.
10. Honolulu, HI: 70% voted for Obama.

So the only one of the top 10 richest cities to even really come close to being Conservative were Anaheim and Virginia Beach and neither was that far from being on the Obama side.

Basically all cities are Liberal because Conservative politics are purely based in rural ideals. They also are supported by people who generally have no interaction with the poor or with people of other socio/economic/racial backgrounds. Only 2 of the 13 most populous states went for McCain in 2008. The vast majority of McCain states were those with few cities and mostly rural areas.

Guess what, Obama even won Dallas and Houston (not counting the small 90% white GOP stronghold of Montgomery county) as well.
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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10 richest cities based on Forbes magazine's listings:
1. San Jose, CA: Ultra-liberal, 69% voted for Obama in 2008
2. Anchorage, AK: Most liberal part of AK, 57.5% voted for Obama in 2008
3. San Francisco, CA: Probably the most liberal city in America, 84.2% voted for Obama in 2008
4. Virginia Beach, VA: Not a liberal place, but was still 50-50
5. San Diego, CA: Most conservative big city in California in some respects, 54.2% still voted for Obama in 2008
6. Anaheim, CA: Seat of a major conservative stronghold, yet the county only had 50.2% support for McCain with 47% going to Obama. This is not taking into account the far more conservative cities in Orange County outside of Anaheim.
7. Raleigh, NC: Can't find the city's exact voting record, but the two counties this city is a part of voted 57% for Obama in Wake county and 76% for Obama in Durham county.
8. Seattle, WA: Can't get the exact numbers, but Seattle was overwhelmingly voting for Obama in 2008. It's a highly liberal place.
9. Washington, DC: Duh. 92.46% voted for Obama.
10. Honolulu, HI: 70% voted for Obama.

So the only one of the top 10 richest cities to even really come close to being Conservative were Anaheim and Virginia Beach and neither was that far from being on the Obama side.

Basically all cities are Liberal because Conservative politics are purely based in rural ideals. They also are supported by people who generally have no interaction with the poor or with people of other socio/economic/racial backgrounds. Only 2 of the 13 most populous states went for McCain in 2008. The vast majority of McCain states were those with few cities and mostly rural areas.

Guess what, Obama even won Dallas and Houston (not counting the small 90% white GOP stronghold of Montgomery county) as well.
And they are all very high COL cities as well.
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Limbo
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And they are all very high COL cities as well.
And quality of life.
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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A good first start to turn some of these cities around would be to raise taxes on the poor that think they can live there for free. They use the buses, police, fire, schools, etc...but don't pay their fair share..Obama calls them "free riders". So if we want less of something, just tax it. Raise taxes on all the bad areas in these cities and watch the poor take the first bus out of town. Then give those areas to wealthy developers or individuals that will rebuild them.
Funny, i thought all Cons think that raising taxes are bad....obviously it is only the ones at the top it is bad for, but those at the bottom can have taxes eat up over 75% of their income and not be a big deal. I bet if you raise taxes more on those poorest cities, it will send them further into ruin.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:21 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ThinkBeforeYouVote View Post
10 richest cities based on Forbes magazine's listings:
1. San Jose, CA: Ultra-liberal, 69% voted for Obama in 2008
2. Anchorage, AK: Most liberal part of AK, 57.5% voted for Obama in 2008
3. San Francisco, CA: Probably the most liberal city in America, 84.2% voted for Obama in 2008
4. Virginia Beach, VA: Not a liberal place, but was still 50-50
5. San Diego, CA: Most conservative big city in California in some respects, 54.2% still voted for Obama in 2008
6. Anaheim, CA: Seat of a major conservative stronghold, yet the county only had 50.2% support for McCain with 47% going to Obama. This is not taking into account the far more conservative cities in Orange County outside of Anaheim.
7. Raleigh, NC: Can't find the city's exact voting record, but the two counties this city is a part of voted 57% for Obama in Wake county and 76% for Obama in Durham county.
8. Seattle, WA: Can't get the exact numbers, but Seattle was overwhelmingly voting for Obama in 2008. It's a highly liberal place.
9. Washington, DC: Duh. 92.46% voted for Obama.
10. Honolulu, HI: 70% voted for Obama.

So the only one of the top 10 richest cities to even really come close to being Conservative were Anaheim and Virginia Beach and neither was that far from being on the Obama side.

Basically all cities are Liberal because Conservative politics are purely based in rural ideals. They also are supported by people who generally have no interaction with the poor or with people of other socio/economic/racial backgrounds. Only 2 of the 13 most populous states went for McCain in 2008. The vast majority of McCain states were those with few cities and mostly rural areas.

Guess what, Obama even won Dallas and Houston (not counting the small 90% white GOP stronghold of Montgomery county) as well.
What's very interesting is that liberals obviously don't really give a damn about the poor even though they pretend they do.

Yes -- of course the ultra rich elite are liberals, no one claimed otherwise. It's the working middle class that tends to be conservative.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:36 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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Bad as the statistics are ... they would have been even worse, if the GOP had been in charge.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:51 PM
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Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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There it is ladies and gentlemen, that is what the right wing propaganda machine throws in so they can skew the results to give them what they want in a BS attempt to trash the dems.

Want to know the real truth of which are the poorest cities in america? Here you go!

10. Morristown, Tenn.
>Median household income: $35,027
>Pct. households below poverty line: 20.0%

9. Cumberland, Md.- W. Va.
>Median household income: $34,819
>Pct. households below poverty line: 19.2%

8. Jonesboro, Ark.
>Median household income: $34,673
>Pct. households below poverty line: 22.5%

7. Hot Springs, Ark.
>Median household income: $34,251
>Pct. households below poverty line: 21.8%

6. Monroe, La.
>Median household income: $34,036
>Pct. households below poverty line: 27.9%

5. Gadsden, Ala.
>Median household income: $33,313
>Pct. households below poverty line: 21.0%

4. Albany, Ga.
>Median household income: $32,775
>Pct. households below poverty line: 28.4%

3. Valdosta, Ga.
>Median household income: $32,446
>Pct. households below poverty line: 27.6%

2. Brownsville-Harlingen, Tex.
>Median household income: $32,070
>Pct. households below poverty line: 34.1%

1. McAllen-Edinburg-Mission, Tex.
>Median household income: $31,077
>Pct. households below poverty line: 37.7%

Well I'll be damned, every single one of the real poorest cities in the US but one are in the rootin' tootin' bright right GOP south.

The GOP, keeping poverty alive and well! Yeeeeeeeeee haw!

I had never heard of Morristown, TN. Accroding the the US census its population is 29,374? That's not a city; that's not even a town; it's a villiage. Congrats on yet another very good effort to distort the debate, however.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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You didn't link to your source.

How do we know that you didn't pull those names and statistics out of y...(well you know what I mean).

Besides - the political makeup of the states that those locales are in has nothing to do with why they may be "poor".

The cities that OP listed are run by Democrats - and that cannot be a coincidence.
America’s Poorest Cities - 24/7 Wall St.
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