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Old 11-03-2012, 06:13 PM
 
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An embryo is not a human 'life'. It is a clump of human cells. That's a fact, not a belief. Try again.
If it wasn't a life, then you would not have to have an abortionist go in there and kill it. Of course it is human, DNA tests prove that and of course it is a life. And it is a mother's own child. The baby's existence is not what ruins the mother's life.
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Not in the 60s - there was no BC except for condoms. The religious right wants to take us back to those 'good ol' days'.
I wasn't thinking about birth control pills.

No woman is required to remove her clothes for a purpose other than bathing.
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:21 PM
 
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If it wasn't a life, then you would not have to have an abortionist go in there and kill it. Of course it is human, DNA tests prove that and of course it is a life. And it is a mother's own child. The baby's existence is not what ruins the mother's life.
An embryo possesses nothing of what makes us human. It is a clump of human cells that have the potential to become a fully formed human person. If the pregnancy process is terminated, no human is created. An abortionist kills nothing - just removes a clump of differentiated cells.
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:21 PM
 
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Too many women using abortion as birth control, now they can't give birth to children when they ready and married?
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Why? Because sex, sexual life is taboo!
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:24 PM
 
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I wasn't thinking about birth control pills.

No woman is required to remove her clothes for a purpose other than bathing.
No woman would get pregnant if there wasn't a horny male trying to get her to remove her clothes. How about we start pushing reversible sterilizations for all men who are sexually active. That would put a screeching halt to abortions.
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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No woman would get pregnant if there wasn't a horny male trying to get her to remove her clothes. How about we start pushing reversible sterilizations for all men who are sexually active. That would put a screeching halt to abortions.
Are you saying that women are helpless victims at the mercy of men with sex drives - and that they have zero responibility for their actions?

Because that is what it sounds like.
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:35 PM
 
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Are you saying that women are helpless victims at the mercy of men with sex drives - and that they have zero responibility for their actions?

Because that is what it sounds like.
Women are no less/no more a victim of their sexual urges than are men and they should be responsible for a pregnancy no less/no more than the man doing the impregnating.
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Old 11-03-2012, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Women are no less/no more a victim of their sexual urges than are men and they should be responsible for a pregnancy no less/no more than the man doing the impregnating.
I agree - all parties should be responsible for the life created. The woman should give birth - and the man should be a father, and they should raise the child together.

Abortion shouldn't be considered - it is simply running away from responsibility for both parties actions.
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Old 11-03-2012, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I agree - all parties should be responsible for the life created. The woman should give birth - and the man should be a father, and they should raise the child together.

Abortion shouldn't be considered - it is simply running away from responsibility for both parties actions.
And what happens when a mother of two faces certain death from an unplanned pregnancy with her husband? My last yahoo was born on birth control. My sister had her last on an iud. Accidents happen and no sex isn't an option. There are condoms, but I know exactly zero married couples that use them.

Look, the simple answer is this. The federal government should stay out of the issue, and individuals should be making up their mind on what's good for them, not their neighbor, and certainly not someone on the other of the country
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Old 11-03-2012, 08:00 PM
 
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I agree - all parties should be responsible for the life created. The woman should give birth - and the man should be a father, and they should raise the child together.

Abortion shouldn't be considered - it is simply running away from responsibility for both parties actions.
Easier said than done. For a woman who is facing pregnancy and motherhood alone, abortion can be the most responsible action.
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