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Old 10-31-2012, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Funkytown
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Lightbulb How I Lost Faith in the "Pro-Life" Movement

"The spring of my sophomore year of college I was president of my university's Students for Life chapter. The fall of my junior year of college I cut my ties with the pro-life movement. Five years later I have lost the last shred of faith I had in that movement. This is my story."

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoy...-movement.html

Some pretty interesting stuff I've never heard of in there. Might have to re-think a few things.

 
Old 10-31-2012, 12:28 PM
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Good riddance.
 
Old 10-31-2012, 12:38 PM
 
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"The spring of my sophomore year of college I was president of my university's Students for Life chapter. The fall of my junior year of college I cut my ties with the pro-life movement. Five years later I have lost the last shred of faith I had in that movement. This is my story."

How I Lost Faith in the “Pro-Life” Movement

Some pretty interesting stuff I've never heard of in there. Might have to re-think a few things.
Agreed. Being "pro choice" IMHO goes 2 ways. Places like China women are under lots of pressure by the government to abort a 2nd child even if SHE don't wont to abort; I've got a real problem with that too.
 
Old 10-31-2012, 01:45 PM
 
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Hogwash. She assumes birth control is 100% when we all know it isn't. There are many oops and then an abortion follows.

I just know before the pill was ever available we did not have that many girls going off to find a back alley abortion. If that was the case we would have many of them dying and in the hospital, etc. it would have been reported. In my school I only heard of one girl who got pregnant before marriage and then she got married.

This girl just decided it was too hard to wait until marriage or until she was ready to support a child. That is ok but she needs to be honest about it.
 
Old 10-31-2012, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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Great article, although I assume that most people here won't read it.

I'll just ask a couple of questions to those who call themselves "pro-lie":

1. How many times have you been to a funeral for a miscarried fetus?
2. If you believe that a fetus or embryo is a fully formed human being with all the rights of any other human being, how much money have you donated to research that would prevent miscarriages?
 
Old 10-31-2012, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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In all fairness most people cannot be prolife in the true sense of the word. Who opposes carpet bombings, most wars, the death penalty, etc...? I can count on my hand the number of people who sincerely oppose these actions.
I sincerely oppose war, abortion and the death penalty.
 
Old 10-31-2012, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Funkytown
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I just know before the pill was ever available we did not have that many girls going off to find a back alley abortion. If that was the case we would have many of them dying and in the hospital, etc. it would have been reported. In my school I only heard of one girl who got pregnant before marriage and then she got married.
Banning abortion does not actually affect abortion rates.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_IAW.html
 
Old 10-31-2012, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Abortion stops a beating heart.
 
Old 10-31-2012, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD / NY
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Hogwash. She assumes birth control is 100% when we all know it isn't. There are many oops and then an abortion follows.
There is no foolproof, failsafe method. Contraceptives and abstinence, in theory, both can be effective. However, in example, just as a condom can accidentally break, one can also 'give in' to a fundamental drive, and end up pregnant.

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I just know before the pill was ever available we did not have that many girls going off to find a back alley abortion. If that was the case we would have many of them dying and in the hospital, etc. it would have been reported. In my school I only heard of one girl who got pregnant before marriage and then she got married.
Contraceptives decrease rates of unplanned pregnancy, and, subsequently abortion. Research clearly demonstrates this--rather than your anecdotal narrative. Further, women have had abortions throughout the century, legal or illegal, pill or before pill. This will continue as well, even if all contraceptives were outlawed and abortion was illegal. Are you insinuating that you would like to see contraceptives out of the picture as well? If so, how will this prevent pregnancies and abortion? Please elaborate.

A rational compromise on this matter is what is needed, religious beliefs aside, taking into consideration that both abstinence and contraceptives both have their flaws.
 
Old 10-31-2012, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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Abortion stops a beating heart.
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