What do you consider murder? (Iraq, enemies, illegal, claims)

[Frugality]

Originally Posted by LibertyForever

Would you say when stopping someone's heart violently and against their will is murder?
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Do you consider soldiers murderers??

[StillwaterTownie]

Originally Posted by LibertyForever

Would you say when stopping someone's heart violently and against their will is murder?
If so then why do you agree with abortion? Its stops a beating heart.

You are quite obviously in severe need of reading this article, so you can find out why your viewpoints against abortion are so morally wrong and backward. May God help you see the light:

How I Lost Faith in the “Pro-Life” Movement

[RVAtoCNC]

Originally Posted by Frugality

Do you consider soldiers murderers??

Yes or No - considering which "side" you are on. Killing those that are trying to kill you (army v. army or police v. armed criminal) is a lot different that what the OP is talking about. Is "mercy killing" - killing an old person who is very sick - murder? I think it is.

[StillwaterTownie]

Originally Posted by LibertyForever

Murder stops a beating heart...abortion does the same thing...NO ONE in their right mind can deny this.

Then what is it you really want? Do you demand a law be passed requiring all pregnant women to give birth or else face severe punishment, such as sterilization?

[tinman01]

Originally Posted by LibertyForever

Would you say when stopping someone's heart violently and against their will is murder?


















If so then why do you agree with abortion? Its stops a beating heart.

No. The circumstances of the event define murder.
If a man is trying to rape my disabled child and I put a 45 acp in the back of his head that is not murder.
If a man is doing no harm and I simply decide that I need to kill someone that is murder.


Abortion? If god doesn't like it, then mommy will answer for it when the time comes.
If I don't like it? Then I won't have it done.

[StillwaterTownie]

Originally Posted by Glitch

Murder is not stopping a beating heart. If you kill someone in self-defense it is not murder, even though you have stopped a beating heart. If you kill someone as a soldier during a war, you are stopping a beating heart, yet it is not murder. Murder is only the unlawful taking of another human life. Since abortion is legal, it is not murder. Anyone who cannot grasp that very simple concept is mentally defective.

Thank goodness, people truly do have some good sense about this issue.

[RVAtoCNC]

Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie

Then what is it you really want? Do you demand a law be passed requiring all pregnant women to give birth or else face severe punishment, such as sterilization?

at what point in pregnancy does the heart start beating??? At what point in pregnancy is the baby viable? Tough questions folks.

[Frugality]

Originally Posted by RVAtoCNC

Yes or No - considering which "side" you are on. Killing those that are trying to kill you (army v. army or police v. armed criminal) is a lot different that what the OP is talking about. Is "mercy killing" - killing an old person who is very sick - murder? I think it is.

The OP said stopping a beating heart is murder. Isn't that what soldiers are trained for? Or are they trained to ball room dance?

[RVAtoCNC]

Originally Posted by Frugality

The OP said stopping a beating heart is murder. Isn't that what soldiers are trained for? Or are they trained to ball room dance?

Are soldiers trained to kill pregnant women and the babies inside them with beating hearts? or are they trained to kill enemy combatants??

[Frugality]

Originally Posted by RVAtoCNC

Are soldiers trained to kill pregnant women and the babies inside them with beating hearts? or are they trained to kill enemy combatants??

Changing the premise of the original question. The OP stated that stopping a beating heart equals murder. Soldiers are trained to kill, that is their main objective. You don't win wars without killing people.