Martial law declared in New Jersey (v, constitution, news, town)
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I wonder why they don't shut the gas off to the area?
If they shut off both gas and electricity before the storm hit, they wouldn't really have to worry as much about the people who stay in their homes.
The worst danger to the people are the explosions and fires caused by broken and cracked pipes. It would make sense to have the electricity off until an inspection is done to a flooded home to make sure water didn't affect the electrical systems and wiring. Same for gas, no gas should be turned back on for a house until an inspection is done on gas lines.
All that can be done at the central stations, shut down everything to areas that are sure to be affected.
Those houses in NY burned for that reason, it wasn't the water that made them explode and burn.
If they shut off both gas and electricity before the storm hit, they wouldn't really have to worry as much about the people who stay in their homes.
The worst danger to the people are the explosions and fires caused by broken and cracked pipes. It would make sense to have the electricity off until an inspection is done to a flooded home to make sure water didn't affect the electrical systems and wiring. Same for gas, no gas should be turned back on for a house until an inspection is done on gas lines.
All that can be done at the central stations, shut down everything to areas that are sure to be affected.
Those houses in NY burned for that reason, it wasn't the water that made them explode and burn.
I'm guessing that they are trying to keep water out of the gas system so they are living with the leaks until they can dig them up and fix them. As long as the pipes are under pressure the water will not get in, but man they must have complete breaks just blowing gas out there. Seems they should find the areas and section them off somehow. Just a guess on my part.
What does that have to do with officials? And it WAS only a hurricane 1/tropical storm.
Someone asked why the gas wasn't already turned off.
As you yourself note, it was "only" a cat 1/tropical storm. Why should this necessitate taking such extreme measures when it hadn't been necessary in the past with similarly classified storms?
Get it now?
Bottom line: can't have it both ways. Nomenclature means nothing when scientists were warning that this thing was going to turn into a monster when it came ashore.
And now some of the same people who have from the beginning attempted to minimize the concern, based solely on how the storm was categorized, now want to condemn officials for likely having the same exact reaction that they themselves had.
Unbelievable.
Someone asked why the gas wasn't already turned off.
As you yourself note, it was "only" a cat 1/tropical storm. Why should this necessitate taking such extreme measures when it hadn't been necessary in the past with similarly classified storms?
Get it now?
Bottom line: can't have it both ways. Nomenclature means nothing when scientists were warning that this thing was going to turn into a monster when it came ashore.
And now some of the same people who have from the beginning attempted to minimize the concern, based solely on how the storm was categorized, now want to condemn officials for likely having the same exact reaction that they themselves had.
Unbelievable.
Regarding turning gas off ahead of time. I work for a utility and the gas dept does shut off gas to houses that they know are going to flood ahead of time, but I'm talking about spring flooding where they know a month weeks ahead who will be affected and pretty much which day the water will peak.
But we aren't talking about the numbers that they have affected out east. There really was no preparing for this disaster other than shutting off the main valves and that would be a disaster all in itself.
If they are having the problems I suspect they are having they may be looking at no gas service for months and maybe longer.
I think it is a good idea to protect people. I'd be happy to see military on my street if I was in a devastating situation like most of these Sandy survivors. Be safe everyone...Wishing you a speedy recovery.
Regarding turning gas off ahead of time. I work for a utility and the gas dept does shut off gas to houses that they know are going to flood ahead of time, but I'm talking about spring flooding where they know a month weeks ahead who will be affected and pretty much which day the water will peak.
But we aren't talking about the numbers that they have affected out east. There really was no preparing for this disaster other than shutting off the main valves and that would be a disaster all in itself.
If they are having the problems I suspect they are having they may be looking at no gas service for months and maybe longer.
They are saying months, eight at least.
However these decisions are ultimately made, I've little doubt that the models are based on past similar experiences. What else could they use? All perfectly understandable.
The problem I am having is with the people who seem to only want to yell "gotcha" after the damage is done, after having themselves expressed something along the lines of "what are people freaking out about?"
I have been through the 1992, 2004 and 2005. It takes time to get things fixed. I thankfully was never displaced but I did need a new roof in 2004 and was without electric or water for 12 days because of all the trees. I finally got the roof a week before Christmas even tho the idiots pulled the old one off in October and then decided that they had to wait on shingles.
there are broken sewer lines and gas leaking from the streets , its not safe and the roads are covered with sand....most ppl left theres only 50 ppl on the islands and most will be allowed to get there belongings.... I don't think you understand how bad the destruction is over here....your all safe in cozy cali which hopefully gets rocked by a 9.0 destroying your house and town completely so you know how we feel over here and why certain temporary laws are needed they have been lifted in several areas there not permanent....
Somehow or other we managed in Vermont after Irene did similar damage here without martial law.
Somehow or other we managed in Vermont after Irene did similar damage here without martial law.
This is a hell of alot worse then Vermont....Entire towns are gone , the coast has been reshapen and numerous bridges and railways have been washed out.... And It turns out it wasn't Martial law at all at least not ordered by the county or state.... The Star ledger has lied once again....adding to thier list of lies and goofs this past year...
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