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Old 10-17-2007, 10:18 AM
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Planned Parenthood is a non-profit organization.

Yes all the profit is put into the pockets of those running the org, those preforming the abortions and advertisement for more abortions.



Big Business! Big wages!
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:20 AM
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Yes all the profit is put into the pockets of those running the org, those preforming the abortions and advertisement for more abortions.



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Proof....?
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:20 AM
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The scenario you outline is exactly what happened before Roe, and many women used abortion means that put them into physical jeopardy and/or killed them.

So, illegal abortions may contribute to the death of the woman and the unborn child. Two deaths!

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But again, WHERE is the evidence that restricting abortion "for cause" will have any effect on the number of abortions ACTUALLY received, attempted, or completed?

If you say, "no abortions for convenience"... where's the evidence that such laws will actually curb abortions for convenience, or that the same women who GET "abortions for convenience" won't simply take illegal means?

Plus, the outlying factor: Rich and well-to-do women will ALWAYS be able to jet off to foreign lands to abort their babies. The poor and economically depressed (those that need the most assistance) will find themselves, as usual, on the short end of our laws.
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:27 AM
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Proof....?

Planned Parenthood a Nonprofit?
During its 2005-06 fiscal year, the non-profit Planned Parenthood Federation of America performed a record 264,943 abortions, attained a huge profit of $55.8 million and received record taxpayer funding of $305.3 million.

For the year July 1, 2005 through June 30, 2006, Planned Parenthood received $345.1 million in clinic income, $305 million in taxpayer funding and $212.2 million in donations.

Total income reached $902.8 million while total expenses came to $847.0 million, leaving a profit of $55.8 million.

Salaries, benefits, and expense accounts for its top 5 corporate officers for the year ending 2000 (I could not find current numbers).

Gloria Feldt
President
$301,754

R. James Lefevre, Jr.
Chief strategic officer
$221,499

James Minow
VP development
$183,575

Michael Burnhill
Medical Director (part time)
$165,376

Jeffrey Mechanick
VP Business services
$146,312



Of course this was the stats for 2005 and I am sure they have given themselves cost of living raises since then. Maybe that is why they are so pro-abortion because it is much cheaper to end a life.
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:29 AM
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Planned Parenthood is a non-profit organization.
Presenting truthful facts that don't support certain persons' beliefs has had little positive effect in this thread. I guess ignorance really is bliss to some.

I see that those who oppose choice can't seem to see things from a rational perspective for whatever beliefs motivate their opinions. Those in favor of choice will offer viable facts to contradict the wild claims made by anti-choice believers. No one here is going to change their mind on either side - regardless of what is shared and written.

It has been said earlier in this thread - if you don't like abortions, then don't have one. Attempts to interfere with other persons' choices and decisions are in violation of personal freedom - this is the USA, and this is not a theocracy. I would think that a preponderance of this country's citizens would not like to see it turn into one. Our forefathers, in their infinite wisdom, saw to it that this country was established with a distinct separation of church and state.

Please don't get it twisted and start talking about the zygote's personal freedom. A potential child is not a person. If you don't accept the truth of that statement, then tough - because our laws and the stance of our medical professionals trump your "opinion". Deal with it.
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:32 AM
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Planned Parenthood a Nonprofit?
During its 2005-06 fiscal year, the non-profit Planned Parenthood Federation of America performed a record 264,943 abortions, attained a huge profit of $55.8 million and received record taxpayer funding of $305.3 million.

For the year July 1, 2005 through June 30, 2006, Planned Parenthood received $345.1 million in clinic income, $305 million in taxpayer funding and $212.2 million in donations.

Total income reached $902.8 million while total expenses came to $847.0 million, leaving a profit of $55.8 million.

Salaries, benefits, and expense accounts for its top 5 corporate officers for the year ending 2000 (I could not find current numbers).

Gloria Feldt
President
$301,754

R. James Lefevre, Jr.
Chief strategic officer
$221,499

James Minow
VP development
$183,575

Michael Burnhill
Medical Director (part time)
$165,376

Jeffrey Mechanick
VP Business services
$146,312


Yes. Non-profit. Non-profit doesn't mean, "no profits," it means the business isn't run to MAKE a profit.

Those director salaries, by the way, are below poverty line compensation for directors and executives in the "private," for profit sector.
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by citigirl View Post
Planned Parenthood a Nonprofit?
During its 2005-06 fiscal year, the non-profit Planned Parenthood Federation of America performed a record 264,943 abortions, attained a huge profit of $55.8 million and received record taxpayer funding of $305.3 million.

For the year July 1, 2005 through June 30, 2006, Planned Parenthood received $345.1 million in clinic income, $305 million in taxpayer funding and $212.2 million in donations.

Total income reached $902.8 million while total expenses came to $847.0 million, leaving a profit of $55.8 million.

Salaries, benefits, and expense accounts for its top 5 corporate officers for the year ending 2000 (I could not find current numbers).

Gloria Feldt
President
$301,754

R. James Lefevre, Jr.
Chief strategic officer
$221,499

James Minow
VP development
$183,575

Michael Burnhill
Medical Director (part time)
$165,376

Jeffrey Mechanick
VP Business services
$146,312



Of course this was the stats for 2005 and I am sure they have given themselves cost of living raises since then. Maybe that is why they are so pro-abortion because it is much cheaper to end a life.
Um, that's all interesting, but people do get paid to work at non-profit organizations.

Also:

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In the United States, nonprofit organizations are normally formed by incorporating in the state in which they expect to do business. The act of incorporating creates a legal entity enabling the organization to be treated as a corporation under law and to enter into business dealings, form contracts, and property as any other individual or for-profit corporation may do.

Nonprofits can have members but many do not. The nonprofit may also be a trust or association of members. The organization may be controlled by its members who elect the Board of Directors, Board of Governors or Board of Trustees. Nonprofits may have a delegate structure to allow for the representation of groups or corporations as members. Alternately, it may be a non-membership organization and the board of directors may elect its own successors.

A primary difference between a nonprofit and a for-profit corporation is that a nonprofit does not issue stock or pay dividends, (for example, The Code of the Commonwealth of Virginia includes the Non-Stock Corporation Act that is used to incorporate nonprofit entities) and may not enrich its directors. However, like for-profit corporations, nonprofits may still have employees and can compensate their directors within reasonable bounds.
Non-profit organization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We can have the debate as to whether the president of Planned Parenthood should be compensated so lavishly. That's a legitimate debate. But to simply indict them because they make money and pay their employees - you're simply wrong.

I'll need more evidence as to what they do with their profits before your earlier points stand.

Also, if you're terribly interested in how much profits non-profits make (and how much they pay their directors), why not take a look at many church-leaders as well? Some of those cats bring home millions per year.
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Yes. Non-profit. Non-profit doesn't mean, "no profits," it means the business isn't run to MAKE a profit.

Those director salaries, by the way, are below poverty line compensation for directors and executives in the "private," for profit sector.


Many people go into the non-profit business to put a profit in their pockets. It takes a lot of LIVING expensives for the KILLING business.
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:45 AM
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That's the good thing about the good ole U.S of A. We can have our own opions and not be shot for it. The anti-abortion group will continue to fight for restrictions on abortion and the group in favor of killing innocent lives will continue fighting for their belief that a woman should have the choice to kill an innocent child. Bottom line is, you fight your fight I will fight mine. My mind can't be changed and neither can yours.
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:45 AM
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I do not personally believe in abortion except in extreme circumstances(rape ,incest) Abortion has become a means of birth control for alot of women.
And therein lies one of the biggest problems with abortion - "oh, this is not convenient at this time - I'll just kill it"

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