New documentary - abortion in USA... (poll, facts, advocate, illegal)

[Anchorless]

Originally Posted by spunky1

I'm afraid that there is still right and wrong and black and white even though it isn't in vogue in or PC societey.

Based on what?

What are you basing your notion of right and wrong on? Just curious.

[TriMT7]

Originally Posted by spunky1

Au contraire. One can have empathy for someones situation but it doesn't change the fact that it is ending a life. The empathy for the innocent unborn is often forgotten.

Many of us would take cries for "empathy for unborn children" a lot more seriously if the people who typically make that argument didn't lack so much empathy for "after birth" children.

[spunky1]

Originally Posted by Anchorless

Based on what?

What are you basing your notion of right and wrong on? Just curious.

Taking of a life wrong.

[spunky1]

Originally Posted by TriMT7

Many of us would take cries for "empathy for unborn children" a lot more seriously if the people who typically make that argument didn't lack so much empathy for "after birth" children.

Are you mocking empathy for the unborn?

[Anchorless]

Originally Posted by spunky1

Taking of a life wrong.

Why? In all cases? In some, defined by circumstances (death penalty, self-defense, war)?

And is a fetus a human life? If so, how and why?

[saganista]

Originally Posted by spunky1

Are you mocking empathy for the unborn?

Any sensible person would mock the baseless claims of empathy that are put forward in this area by religious extremists. There is in essence no actual empathy within any of them. My way or the highway. Not a lot of empathy there...more like a personal conceit in the view of many...

[spunky1]

Originally Posted by Anchorless

Why? In all cases? In some, defined by circumstances (death penalty, self-defense, war)?

And is a fetus a human life? If so, how and why?

Yes, a fetus is a life. The how and why is pretty basic biology.

Because the mother has decided it isn't convenient for her to carry a child to term she decides to abort it.

[TriMT7]

Originally Posted by spunky1

Are you mocking empathy for the unborn?

No. I'm mocking the fact that those who care so much about the health and safety of unborn fetuses tend to be the very same who oppose, say, an expansion of healthcare coverage for uninsured children. Or school lunch programs. Or any sort of public assistance at all.

[DontH8Me]

Originally Posted by spunky1

Yes, a fetus is a life. The how and why is pretty basic biology.

Because the mother has decided it isn't convenient for her to carry a child to term she decides to abort it.

I'll quote delicate flower in response to this post:

"And just because millions of people believe in something doesn't make it real."

[Anchorless]

Originally Posted by spunky1

Yes, a fetus is a life. The how and why is pretty basic biology.

Because the mother has decided it isn't convenient for her to carry a child to term she decides to abort it.

Eh, not satisfied.

Simply calling something "life" isn't a proper standard in this context - plants are "alive," animals are "alive," the sperm could even technically be considered "alive."

The standard you're looking for is "human life," and you'll find that this is what makes the abortion debate so tough. When does the fetus become a "human life?"

A glob of cells post conception hardly warrants the designation of human life, if you ask most rational people. Somewhere between viability and the late stages of being a toddler is the more appropriate range.