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Old 11-07-2012, 10:32 AM
 
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Red staters, if you don't like the election results, by all means, SECEDE FROM THE UNION! I would be the first to vote Texas, Arizona, and the bible belt out. We chose "socialism" and a bunch of us voted for gay marriage and legalized marijuana, while Arkansas didn't even want medical marijuana.

By all means tea partiers, go ahead and break free of our liberal, godless union. We would be better off without you anyway:

How Blue States Subsidize Red States | MRCYRIAC GOES TO WASHINGTON
Since this country was founded on smaller government, I'm thinking that those being asked to leave are the ones advocating for larger government.

As someone that spent their younger years listening to the need to fight socialism, thinking it's a great thing is disgusting. If socialism is so great, why is Greece dying? Why did the USSR fail?

 
Old 11-07-2012, 10:34 AM
 
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Since this country was founded on smaller government, I'm thinking that those being asked to leave are the ones advocating for larger government.

As someone that spent their younger years listening to the need to fight socialism, thinking it's a great thing is disgusting. If socialism is so great, why is Greece dying? Why did the USSR fail?
You are incredibly dense to think that Obama and democrats are socialists. Both parties cater to big business and corporations, the difference being which industries each party primarily serves.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 10:35 AM
 
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ok, how about all those red counties instead of the red states. after all, without the red counties, the blue counties would not survive.
That would require them to face reality.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 10:40 AM
 
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People act as if there are no Republicans in blue counties and vice versa. No county votes 100% republican or democrat.

Not all people are hard-core blue or hard core red. What happens to fiscally conservative social liberals? What happens to independents?

The whole idea is a joke to believe that just because people live in one area they all think they same way. People's beliefs are too complex to split them like this.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 10:40 AM
 
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Why do the totally ignorant start ridiculous threads like this. The childlike replies from the ignorant in this thread is beyond belief. My state is better than your state nah nah nah. My god people grow up. This is/was a great country with all states. We are supposed to be united. I am glad the intelligent refrain from posting idiotic stuff like this.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 10:41 AM
 
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That would require them to face reality.

very true, without red counties blue counties would not be able to feed or drink almost anything.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 10:43 AM
 
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very true, without red counties blue counties would not be able to feed or drink almost anything.
If you think a red county in California is culturally similar to a red county in Alabama, then you are seriously deluded.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 10:45 AM
 
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It seems to me that the last few election cycles are really about the the divide betwen big city and suburban/rural voters.

All this talk about red states vs blue states, when in reality, when you look at congressional representation by district, is really a discussion about red counties vs blue counties.

Urban voters tend to be more socially aware, socially tolerant, less religous and pro-government.

Whereas, suburban/rural voters are more religous, which brings views on social issues in line with their religous views, smaller government, less taxes, etc.

Urban voters need the government to provide all of the services that are required to live in a major city, public transportation, police, fire, etc.

Rural voters don't depend on those services as much so tend not to want to pay for them, and by their very nature, tend to be more self-sufficient.

Probably why the form of government we have was set up the way it was, so that the large couldn't trample on the small, and everyones ideas, opinions, needs and wants should be considered.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 10:46 AM
 
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If you think a red county in California is culturally similar to a red county in Alabama, then you are seriously deluded.
Having lived in both places, I would say the Yreka is much more aligned with Alabama than they are with Los Angeles.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 10:47 AM
 
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The ignorant here have no idea what they are talking about. A state that voted 51% Democrat and 49% Republican would be considered a blue state. Basically half and half. Wise up people. There is no such thing as a red or blue states.
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