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Old 11-12-2012, 04:47 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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I think america is on the same path that greece has taken
Yes but our credit card is bigger so we might have a couple more years to party
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:55 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Conservatives need to face certain realities: it isn't just Obama, it's the American people. This country has lost it. We need a new survival paradigm.

Perhaps we should take our cues from Old World conservatives, who have survived for generations as a defeated but vigorous minority in countries dominated by leftism.

Because that's what it's about today: not victory, but survival.

We can take heart in that a traditionalist sub-culture exists in America with its own movements and institutions. But Obama could put a big dent in those institutions. If push comes to shove and the Obama administration doesn't back down, many of these institutions could be forced into bankruptcy by non-compliance fines. So much for sending your children to one of the many small, orthodox, Catholic liberal arts colleges in the country. So much for a career in healthcare or social work at a religious hospital or charity. All such venues may be forced to either close or be corrupted under Obamacare. Already in California state mandates have placed the profession of teaching in public schools out of reach for serious Christians. And the list goes on ...

In the United States it's not going to be violent, bloody martyrdom or anything. Not anytime soon. But it does seem that we are on a trajectory of gradually excluding Christians from public life in various ways. With the state mandating that certain jobs and activities openly facilitate evil, we are faced with either treason to our faith or retreat from society. The underground.

Well, European conservatives - and they do exist - have lived under such conditions for a long time. I suggest we find out how they have managed, what they have done to survive, and how they navigate the moral and spiritual minefield of their respective societies. It's about survival now.
You better work on figuring out how to "survive" at least 12 more years.
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:12 AM
 
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It's about survival now.
That bad is it?
I got plenty of money,plenty of food, several cars, debt free,nice paid for house, if this is survival mode feed me more...
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:29 AM
 
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Christ also said "give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime". Don't act all high and mighty, when you're perfectly willing to steal another's property to further your own views of "fairness" and "equality".
Can't believe you really posted this!

Exactly where in the Bible did Jesus say this? Chapter/verse, please.
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Old 11-12-2012, 07:38 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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I do hope some conservatives survive ..... it gives some balance, some checks in a govt if there are a variety of viewpoints. But not the nasty stupid kind of extremist conservative, the kind that wails and gnashes their teeth every time Obama is mentioned, as if he were the fount of all evil, the kind who think half the country is a buncha lazy bums. Maybe the Republicans can somehow shrug them off.
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Old 11-12-2012, 07:52 PM
 
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Yes but our credit card is bigger so we might have a couple more years to party
Sorry man that credit card got cut up in little pieces when the debt hit 16 trillion bucks. It's PAY UP Time Now!

That's gonna hurt too, since a 1 dollar paper note is worth 1/26th of a dollar.......

I know you won't get that idea, but it means for every 26 bucks you pay in taxes 1 buck will go to offset that 16 trillion debt. So if you want to see the debt interest even slow down a little bit you better get busy PAYIN' UP.

You had your party last week when you voted that FOOL back in..
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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For some no governamnt is better than any governemnt.Nothighappened the last two years really.Can spend any money on what you can't pass.
Rarrit!

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Old 11-12-2012, 08:17 PM
 
Location: 125 Years Too Late...
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I do hope some conservatives survive ..... it gives some balance, some checks in a govt if there are a variety of viewpoints. But not the nasty stupid kind of extremist conservative, the kind that wails and gnashes their teeth every time Obama is mentioned, as if he were the fount of all evil, the kind who think half the country is a buncha lazy bums. Maybe the Republicans can somehow shrug them off.
Yeah, only the ones that agree with the dems. The rest can go...
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:57 PM
 
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So 16 trillion was the magic cutoff... Why? Who was the last republican prez to reduce the debt? Wasn't it a republican that was famously quoted saying "deficits don't matter"? But all we had to do was vote in a republican and everything would be fixed?
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Conservatives need to face certain realities
If there is one thing conservatives are not good at it is facing reality. BTW you're about as far from reality as one can get.
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