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Old 12-04-2013, 09:53 PM
 
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Gowdy: Can the President fail to enforce categories of law? - YouTube

If the president can order his people to refuse to follow the law, as it concerns Obamacare, immigration, drug laws... Can he not also simply ignore election law? If the president is free to ignore the law... then why have laws?
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:02 PM
 
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If the majority of American people don't stand up - then nothing will be done. We are the government.
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Old 12-05-2013, 06:02 AM
 
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Executive orders have been around since George Washington, yet it is only evil and terrible when Obama does them.

I wonder what it is about Obama that no other president in history has...
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Old 12-05-2013, 06:04 AM
 
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Executive orders have been around since George Washington, yet it is only evil and terrible when Obama does them.

I wonder what it is about Obama that no other president in history has...
Why don't you give us your thoughts....
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Old 12-05-2013, 06:12 AM
 
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Why don't you give us your thoughts....
Allow me to assist. What he's saying there is:


Liberal/Obama Supporter Auto Response Protocol™

1. The source isn't valid
2. That's racist
3. GOP obstruction
4. But...but...but George W. Bush
5. Haters gonna hate
6. Sour grapes- your guy lost
7. The insurance companies are at fault, Obama didn't lie
8. Repeat 1,2,3,4,5, 6 and/or 7 as needed then insult the opposition for failing to support this great man, declare victory, and move on




What's actually different about Obama is that no other POTUS has ever illegally and unconstitutionally bypassed Congress to alter immigration law in order to pander for votes.
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Old 12-05-2013, 06:35 AM
 
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Bear witness to the truth. The same Congress that has held up confirmation of federal judicial appointments, and cut government funding through "sequestration" - not to mention shutting down the government - is now blaming the President for not enforcing the law. It is the Congress that is to blame. It is the Congress that has failed to act. Now see the results. It is most acute in the southern border states that handle a large volume of drug and alien smuggling cases. What we are seeing now is a triage in which a rather large number of cases will not be prosecuted solely due to budgetary constraints. And, who holds the purse strings?
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Old 12-05-2013, 06:36 AM
 
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Allow me to assist. What he's saying there is:


Liberal/Obama Supporter Auto Response Protocolâ„¢

1. The source isn't valid
2. That's racist
3. GOP obstruction
4. But...but...but George W. Bush
5. Haters gonna hate
6. Sour grapes- your guy lost
7. The insurance companies are at fault, Obama didn't lie
8. Repeat 1,2,3,4,5, 6 and/or 7 as needed then insult the opposition for failing to support this great man, declare victory, and move on




What's actually different about Obama is that no other POTUS has ever illegally and unconstitutionally bypassed Congress to alter immigration law in order to pander for votes.
Well, if you have your straw man that just puts words in other people's mouth...why are you talking with other people? Just sit there talking to yourself and you will never have the possibility of losing an argument, or anyone getting miffed you are just putting words into your mouth.

Opinions go back to Memorial of Captain Meigs, 9 Op. Att'y Gen. 462, 469-70 (1860) allowing for this to happen. The courts officially approved this in 1926 in Myers v. United States, 272 U.S. 52...and re-enforced in See INS v. Chadha, 462 U.S. 919, 942 n.13 (1983) and Freytag v. Commissioner, 501 U.S. 868 (1991). So yes, other presidents have done it and it is codified into law for a long time.

If you love the US so much, maybe you should know its laws.
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Old 12-05-2013, 07:09 AM
 
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Well, if you have your straw man that just puts words in other people's mouth...why are you talking with other people? Just sit there talking to yourself and you will never have the possibility of losing an argument, or anyone getting miffed you are just putting words into your mouth.

Opinions go back to Memorial of Captain Meigs, 9 Op. Att'y Gen. 462, 469-70 (1860) allowing for this to happen. The courts officially approved this in 1926 in Myers v. United States, 272 U.S. 52...and re-enforced in See INS v. Chadha, 462 U.S. 919, 942 n.13 (1983) and Freytag v. Commissioner, 501 U.S. 868 (1991). So yes, other presidents have done it and it is codified into law for a long time.

If you love the US so much, maybe you should know its laws.
What does the quote below have to do with anything you stated above?

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I wonder what it is about Obama that no other president in history has....
What does removing executive branch officials (1926 in Myers v. United States) have to do with what "no other president in history has."

Again, please inform us...
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Old 12-05-2013, 07:12 AM
 
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He's unable. Bots will be bots.
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Old 12-05-2013, 07:16 AM
 
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If the majority of American people don't stand up - then nothing will be done. We are the government.
As long as Obama's party controls the Senate, he can continue to break the law with impunity. Vote them all out of office and put the next bunch of syncophants on notice to be more representative of the people or lose their jobs before they can get filthy rich.
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