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Old 11-13-2012, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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He defeated the top two people in the party one after another with EASE. He defeated social conservatives by ending DADT and now during this election gay marriage is legal in three more states.

He embarrassed Donald Trump and make him so angry that he embarrassed himself to the point that hey isn't looked at the same way anymore

He defeated the tea party

He defeated and embarrassed Fox News on the election night and because of their hatred towards the President they ended up looking like douchebags on election night, espect Dick Morris, and Sean Hannity.

He transformed america further to the left with the affordable care act

He will now be able to shift the supreme court to the liberal side during his last term.

The coalition he built may be long lasting and nearly impossible for Republicans to beat for decades to come!!

Is president Obama like the Democratic LIberal Rambo? He easily defeats republicans at all times and when republicans are around him they defeat THEMSELVES!!

HA!
No doubt that Pres. Obama is the man when it comes to winning elections. I think most GOP'ers had a gut feeling that Romney would win, but Obama outsmarted us all with his highly effective voter suppression tactics.
Obama

He has proven that he can win elections, as well as ram thru liberal policies in spite of long odds. But can he govern? So far all he's done is generate one debacle after another, then point the finger at someone else.

As far as gay marriage, the truth is that most right wingers don't care about the issue very much. If gays want to marry, my advice is: be careful what you wish for. Most of us were fine with "civil unions;" my only objection to "gay marriage" was that it redefines an English word. But then there's a legit argument that language does evolve, after all.

As far as the SCOTUS, it's possible he could tip the balance there, but the justices have a way of waiting to retire untill a like-minded prez is in office. Kennedy & Scalia will probably wait till 2016 to retire if possible.

I remember someone else who talked about a coalition for decades to come. I think the words were something along the lines of a 40 year dynasty. That was Karl Rove, talking about a GOP dynasty after R's took the house, WH, and Senate back in 2000.
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:54 AM
 
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The reality is that the Republicans beat themselves and the Democrats were smart enough - or lucky enough - to let them do it. Obama was there to be beaten. The fact that he won says very little about the Democrats and a lot about the Republicans.

1. They ran a candidate who stood for nothing other than his desire to get elected. He flipped from being moderate to conservative and then he flipped back to the center after he got the nomination. He would talk about his policies in only the broadest of terms and the few times he got into any kind of detail, his numbers didn't work. Nobody knew what Romney stood for other than lower taxes for himself.

2. They deeply offended women by neanderthal attitudes on women's reproductive health (e.g. Akin, Mourdock, Rush). It takes a remarkable degree of idiocy to lose the women's vote by 11 points.

3. Whether they were right or not, it is lunacy to openly denigrate half the electorate as 'takers' especially when so many corporations with links to prominent Republicans also have their noses firmly in the trough.

4. There is a nasty whiff of racism in the Republican party whether it be the love affair with Arpaio or the birther campaign against Obama. Republicans may not think they are racists but minorities clearly think otherwise which is one of the reasons they voted overwhelmingly for Obama.

The real question for the GOP and 2016 is whether they can get rid of the right wing religious lunatics who have turned off so much of middle America and whether they can become a party for all Americans rather than a privileged white minority.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:18 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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has president obama single handedly destroyed the republican party? is he a liberal rambo?
No. The R's have all but destroyed themselves, they've imploded, as evidenced in numerous threads here on C-D and in the real world.
The R party has had a difficult time vetting presidential candidates since reagan. They simply don't have any one person who is genuinely interested with working with the D party, or unifying.

has president obama single handedly destroyed the republican party? is he a liberal rambo?
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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All he had to do is shine a spotlight on their policies which are, wait for it, nothing. Next he held up a shiny mirror and they saw how weak they were.

This election and the last one, which I monitored, I am still trying to figure out what the GOP stand for other than hating the gays and anti abortion.

In sound/acoustic terms this is known as white noise which ironically is quite a good pun too
I'm a registered independent but am extremely conservative....estremely...however, I don't hate the gays in the least and am not anti abortion.

What I am is this...what ever a person chooses to do with her body is her business....and that includes gays as well.....you cannot and will never be able to tell the people how to live their lives....it isn't the role of anyone nor is it anyone's job. I do not believe in abortion....however, I don't care if a women gets one...

And Not all GOP's stand for anything, just as not all liberals stand for anything...you do have the extremists in both parties...which is very bad....however, in general terms, it really really annoys me when people generalize like this...
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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No. The R's have all but destroyed themselves, they've imploded, as evidenced in numerous threads here on C-D and in the real world.
The R party has had a difficult time vetting presidential candidates since reagan. They simply don't have any one person who is genuinely interested with working with the D party, or unifying.

has president obama single handedly destroyed the republican party? is he a liberal rambo?
THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^LOL
Oh for God's sake, will you come down off of the balloon?

No, the R's have not been destroyed....however, there were a whole lot of R's who didn't like Romney and didn't vote....and I don't blame them...and by the way....they found out, that there were 80 some voting districts in and around Philly, that didn't have one vote, not one vote for Romney.

The R. Party is having trouble vesting good candidates....I would have voted for Herman Cain in a heartbeat, but they sabotaged him with all those reports of him commiting adultry, however, not one woman came forward...and yet, they ruined him, and I wouldn't be at all surprised, if it was Romney's campaign. People started listening to him...and they feared his popularity that was growing.

Its like I've said before, when the American public begins to realize, and I believe a whole lot of people are finally waking up, that BOTH sides are corrupt, this nation will change...the two party system is not working....
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:33 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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He defeated the top two people in the party one after another with EASE. He defeated social conservatives by ending DADT and now during this election gay marriage is legal in three more states.

He embarrassed Donald Trump and make him so angry that he embarrassed himself to the point that hey isn't looked at the same way anymore

He defeated the tea party

He defeated and embarrassed Fox News on the election night and because of their hatred towards the President they ended up looking like douchebags on election night, espect Dick Morris, and Sean Hannity.

He transformed america further to the left with the affordable care act

He will now be able to shift the supreme court to the liberal side during his last term.

The coalition he built may be long lasting and nearly impossible for Republicans to beat for decades to come!!

Is president Obama like the Democratic LIberal Rambo? He easily defeats republicans at all times and when republicans are around him they defeat THEMSELVES!!

HA!
Obama can't take credit for destroying the Republican Party, the Tea party, Trump or FOX. These three groups and Trump all shot themselves in foot by not only embracing the wack-a-dos but elevating them above any mainstream moderators among their numbers. They did it to themselves by lying and distorting the truth and pandering to the uneducated and thinking they could get away with that in the age of Google. We can only hope the moderator Republicans have learned a lesson and will grow a set of balls then throw the wack-a-dos out.

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Old 11-13-2012, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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The reality is that the Republicans beat themselves and the Democrats were smart enough - or lucky enough - to let them do it. Obama was there to be beaten. The fact that he won says very little about the Democrats and a lot about the Republicans.

1. They ran a candidate who stood for nothing other than his desire to get elected. He flipped from being moderate to conservative and then he flipped back to the center after he got the nomination. He would talk about his policies in only the broadest of terms and the few times he got into any kind of detail, his numbers didn't work. Nobody knew what Romney stood for other than lower taxes for himself.

2. They deeply offended women by neanderthal attitudes on women's reproductive health (e.g. Akin, Mourdock, Rush). It takes a remarkable degree of idiocy to lose the women's vote by 11 points.

3. Whether they were right or not, it is lunacy to openly denigrate half the electorate as 'takers' especially when so many corporations with links to prominent Republicans also have their noses firmly in the trough.

4. There is a nasty whiff of racism in the Republican party whether it be the love affair with Arpaio or the birther campaign against Obama. Republicans may not think they are racists but minorities clearly think otherwise which is one of the reasons they voted overwhelmingly for Obama.

The real question for the GOP and 2016 is whether they can get rid of the right wing religious lunatics who have turned off so much of middle America and whether they can become a party for all Americans rather than a privileged white minority.
You have made some really good points....
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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oh, and let me just say, out of over 58 districts in the Philly area, there were no, zero, zilch votes for Romeny???????? In several of those voting districts, they turned Republicans away and they could not get near the voting machines for 4 hours....a court injunction had to be gotten to get them in....

this election harbored more voter fraud then any other time in history....

the only way the Republican Party will be destroyed, is if people start waking up and realizing, that the two party system is corrupt and stop being loyal to their parties, and be loyal to their country....that is the only way.

Plus, Obama and his cronies pulled that entire thing with Bengazi....they lied to the American public, saying it was protests about an anti muslim film.....Good God, and people still voted for him???????

Amazing how utterly in denial we all are....
No one one this no one, b/c in the end, nothing will change...and in the next four years, the Republicans will get it....and back and forth and back and forth, just like it always does, and things will continue to worsen...b/c no matter who gets in...the house, the senate, work for the rich...not us...and the rich control what we hear, what we believe....

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Old 11-13-2012, 06:38 AM
 
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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About half the blame goes to John McCain for putting Caribou Barbie on the ticket with him.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:43 AM
 
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Obama can't take credit for destroying the Republican Party, the Tea party, Trump or FOX. These three groups and Trump all shot themselves in foot by not only embracing the wack-a-dos but elevating them above any mainstream moderators among their numbers. They did it to themselves by lying and distorting the truth and pandering to the uneducated and thinking they could get away with that in the age of Google. We can only hope the moderator Republicans have learned a lesson and will grow a set of balls then hrow the wack-a-dos out.
Remember when Romney said that 'We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers'?

In other words: 'We shall say what we want to win and we don't care if you say it's true or not'.

For example, Obama was accused of going on a foreign tour and 'apologising for America'. He didn't. Obama was criticized for breaking a promise to keep unemployment under 8%; he never said such a thing. Romney said that his economic policies would create 12 million new jobs in four years, but the numbers simply didn't add up. In the last week of campaigning in Ohio, Romney suggested that a local car maker was planning to shift production to China. The company boss said that the claim was false. This lie did not help his campaign in the key swing state of Ohio.

Those are just a few examples of a candidate who was described by one critic as being engaged in 'foundational lying'.
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