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The Doctor discusses various things, but the most important are
1. Doctors will start picking what patients they will accept.
2. More patients will have to go to hospitals for care.
3. Increased cost for Insurance, due to blanket coverage for everyone, including those with pre-existing conditions.
4. Shortage of Doctors.
5. Less innovation, less biomedical research, less drug research.
#1-5 are all what we have seen in Europe...very true...
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1) Except...European countries have 100 % coverage, many with personal physican systems.
2) More patients have access to hospitals. 100 % coverage, remember? The US has a "go to the emergecy room if you don't have insurance" system.
3) Insurance is cheaper in every European country, and by a vast amount. Thats kind of central to the discussion!
4) The US have less doctors per person than all but one european country. The US is number 53 in the world.
5) Theres actually more research going on in the EU than in the US. Although in all fairness, the US does do more on a per person basis.
I mean, honestly. We just had a big discussion about Fox news viewers living in their own echo chamber of false facts, and getting the shock of their lives when the election results brought them up against reality. And a couple of day larter...here we are again! people making idiots of themselves by wittering about obviously wrong facts.
I mean, I can understand getting stuff like hospital admissions wrong, but the number of doctors per person!? Its pretty well known that the US has a shortage, and it takes just about 1 minute to check it on google.
businesses would love singlepayer(less overhead)...the problem is the INDIVIDUAL taxpayer can't afford singlepayer
we have 120 million tax filers (of those 120 million , 47% get nearly everything back...so actual federal tax payers is less than 80 million)
we have 320 million people
the average guesstimates for singlepayer cost is about 2 - 6 trillion A YEAR
we (the feds) already spend about 1 trillion (medicare/caide/va) a year
so ADDITION revenue of 1- 5 trillion would be needed
with singlepayer, no more employeer taking care 0f 75%..its all on YOU the taxpayer
Or this scenario; Let's say Romney won the election and was also successful in the full repeal of the ACA.
Healthcare insurance premiums continue to rise at unsustainable levels due to hospitals been forced to recoup costs brought about by the exponentially increasing masses of uninsured that, instead of being able to see a primary care physician for a condition that could be caught early they must wait do to no insurance exacerbating their condition.
The uninsured then go to the hospital ER because it is now a possible life and death situation.
The hospital must treat the advanced condition and due to the patient being uninsured now must recoup the money by charging insured patents more money. This causes the insured patents healthcare insurance premium to rise thus forcing many to drop coverage do to it being cost prohibitive.
These people now have joined the millions of the already uninsured thus adding to the vicious cycle.
It is widely known that employers, due to the cost of health insurance are having their employees pay a notably higher amount for usually a diminished amount of coverage.
Some employers have been forced to drop coverage all together for their employee base.
The Eisenhower administration introduced universal healthcare in the mid fifties and it was declined like has been for the past 60 years until the ACA came along.
The only way to avoid the freight train of the catastrophic collapse of the U.S. healthcare system is universal healthcare via our tax base.
If we fail to do this the entire country falls into a very nightmarish reality of their productive citizen population becoming very ill as a whole thus causing a host of failures to occur.
There is no other way around this situation but to implement universal care for all citizenry.
Won't the seniors who voted for Obama be surpised when most physicians drop medicare after the slated 30% pay cuts?
The media did a good job of hiding that one.
I know of NO PHYSICIAN who will accept Obamacare (new Medicaid) patients. Obamacare creates a healthcare mess that will unfold over the next two years.
Or letter Q congress will act and stop the slated 30.9% cut.
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A large negative update is extremely unlikely to occur. As noted, Congress has overridden all of the scheduled reductions from 2003 through 2012. Moreover, the projected −30.9-percent update for 2013 is much larger than most of those previously avoided. Despite their improbability, the negative physician updates are scheduled to occur under current law and are therefore included in the Part B estimates shown in the 2012 Medicare Trustees Report.
Most of the services covered by the Medicare fee-for-service program (including inpatient hospital, outpatient hospital, skilled nursing facility, and home health care) receive annual payment increases based on statutory input price indices. These price indices, or “market baskets,” measure the increase in prices that each category of provider must pay for the goods and services they purchase to enable them to care for patients. Such inputs includes wages and other compensation for their employees, medical and other equipment, and overhead expenses such as heating, utilities, and rent. Other Medicare services such as ambulance, ambulatory surgical centers, laboratory services, certain durable medical equipment, and prosthetics have their payments updated annually by the increase in the Consumer Price Index (CPI). The Affordable Care Act specifies that all of these payment updates be reduced by the percentage increase in the 10-year moving average of private nonfarm business multifactor productivity beginning as early as 2011.
For the health sector, measured productivity gains have generally been quite small, given the labor-intensive nature of health services and the individual customization of treatments required in many instances. Hospital productivity has increased in recent years by about 0.4 percent per year (and by negligible levels, on average, over longer periods).12 For skilled nursing facilities and home health agencies, productivity gains are believed to be close to zero.13 As noted earlier, some Medicare payment systems (such as payments for ambulatory surgical centers and laboratory tests) are updated by the CPI, which is already an output price index. These updates will also be reduced by economy-wide multifactor productivity gains under the new law, essentially requiring that these providers and suppliers achieve twice the rate of economy-wide multifactor productivity increases to break even.
#1-5 are all what we have seen in Europe...very true...many doctors who are stressed out and constantly change of primary doctors and many doctors working together and never seeing the same doctor.
Doctors getting paid by patient and not by the amount of times they will see you and of course a doctor rather will see a young person than an old person...
Waiting rooms full of patients and waiting lists to see a specialist
And take home self kit for the Pap smear test!!!!
Get used to it, that is what people voted for so deal with it and start to save up because the rich will make sure they will move their money and they have my blessing!
You want it then pay or work for it! Bye free loaders, others don't like to pay for you!
And how often does this happen in Europe? Probably never.
CBO has previously analyzed a number of options to decrease mandatory spending (see Table 3 on page 14).
Those options can be grouped in three categories:
Health care programs.
Of the health-related proposals for which CBO has published an estimate, the one with the largest savings would repeal provisions of the Affordable Care Act that expand health insurance coverage (while leaving other provisions of that law unchanged). That option would decrease spending for major health care programs by nearly 15 percent in 2020 and would reduce the deficit by roughly $150 billion in that year, according to estimates by CBO and the staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT).14 The option would also increase the number of people without health insurance coverage by an estimated 29 million in 2020. Various other changes to health care programs for which CBO has published estimates would save between $5 billion and $50 billion each in 2020 (not counting interactions with other potential policy changes).
Social Security.
Of the proposals involving Social Security for which CBO has published estimates, the three with the largest savings would raise the ages at which people qualify for benefits or reduce the size of their initial benefit. Any of those changes would decrease outlays by about $30 billion in 2020.
Other mandatory programs.
Of the proposals in this category for which CBO has published an estimate, the one with the largest savings involves allowing the automatic enforcement procedures in the Budget Control Act to take effect. Doing so would reduce outlays for a large number of mandatory programs, including some health-related programs, by a total of $15 billion in 2020. A second proposal in this category involves changing the rate structure for student loans, which would reduce mandatory outlays by $10 billion in 2020.
If policymakers wanted to reduce the deficit by $750 billion in 2020, the savings from enacting all of the options shown in Table 3 would achieve about 80 percent of that goal and would result mainly from changes to major health care programs and Social Security
The Canadian Medical Association Journal reports that in one year, 71 Ontario patients died while waiting for coronary bypass surgery and over one hundred more became “medically unfit for surgery.” The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation reports that “109 people had a heart attack or suffered heart failure while on the waiting list. Fifty of those patients died.”
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And England? The BBC reports that “up to 500 heart patients die each year while they wait for potentially life-saving surgery.” The Timesreports that a British woman “will be denied free National Health Service treatment for breast cancer if she seeks to improve her chances by paying privately for an additional drug.” A Daily Telegraphheadline reads: “Sufferers pull out teeth due to lack of dentists.” “Doctors are calling for NHS treatment to be withheld from patients who are too old or who lead unhealthy lives,” reports another article.
NHS doctors are prematurely ending the lives of thousands of elderly hospital patients because they are difficult to manage or to free up beds, a senior consultant claimed yesterday.
Professor Patrick Pullicino said doctors had turned the use of a controversial ‘death pathway’ into the equivalent of euthanasia of the elderly.
[LEFT]NHS doctors are prematurely ending the lives of thousands of elderly hospital patients because they are difficult to manage or to free up beds, a senior consultant claimed yesterday.
Professor Patrick Pullicino said doctors had turned the use of a controversial ‘death pathway’ into the equivalent of euthanasia of the elderly.
NHS doctors are prematurely ending the lives of thousands of elderly hospital patients because they are difficult to manage or to free up beds, a senior consultant claimed yesterday.
Professor Patrick Pullicino said doctors had turned the use of a controversial ‘death pathway’ into the equivalent of euthanasia of the elderly.
NHS doctors are prematurely ending the lives of thousands of elderly hospital patients because they are difficult to manage or to free up beds, a senior consultant claimed yesterday.
Professor Patrick Pullicino said doctors had turned the use of a controversial ‘death pathway’ into the equivalent of euthanasia of the elderly.
[LEFT]NHS doctors are prematurely ending the lives of thousands of elderly hospital patients because they are difficult to manage or to free up beds, a senior consultant claimed yesterday.
Professor Patrick Pullicino said doctors had turned the use of a controversial ‘death pathway’ into the equivalent of euthanasia of the elderly.
The link leads to a blog called "Patient Power Now", run by something calling itself the Independence Institute, "an American conservative think-tank based in Golden, Colorado". Its research director, Dave Kopel, moonlights as an analyst at the right-wing libertarian Cato Institute and a contributor to National Review and the Volokh Conspiracy, both well-known right wing publications. Its president, Jon Caldara, is a Glenn Beck wannabe, the host of a Denver AM-Radio talk show, and a Denver-area RWNJ gadfly.
This source, in sum, is a right-wing libertarian propaganda organ.
Darkatt. Seriously. Your first link opens with this:
"Universal health care” is false advertising for politically-controlled medicine, with government as the “single-payer” monopolistic insurer. But having coverage does not guarantee getting medical care. Since patients prepay through taxes, medical care appears “free.” Hence, they have strong incentive to over-consume and providers need not compete on price."
If that doesn't actally tell you that these guys have gone down the rabbit hole and is having tea with the mad hatter, you need to take stock. And if that wasn't enough, your second link is the Daily Mail!
Were you counting on no-one actually looking at your link, or did you actually believe that delusional drivel? If the latter, you need to up your knowledge base badly.
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