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Old 11-13-2012, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Ignoring your correlation between marriage and poverty, those who are impoverished have no choice between voting for the party who is somewhat committed to improving their situation, or not voting at all. Only self-deprecation would allow them to vote for a party who is openly hostile and demeaning to them on a regular basis.
I child born to a single loving parent will be worse off financially and emotionally, then a child born to two loving parents.

The democratic party is not even "somewhat committed" have you not seen what this 0bama economy is doing to the nation?
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Old 11-13-2012, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Exclamation hmm....

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I child born to a single loving parent will be worse off financially and emotionally, then a child born to two loving parents.

The democratic party is not even "somewhat committed" have you not seen what this 0bama economy is doing to the nation?
This logical fallacy makes no sense and should be disregarded as such.

The Nation's economy is recovering, at least that's what the majority of Economists say!
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Old 11-13-2012, 04:05 PM
 
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Please give me your statistical analysis then proving the probability that Romney would get zero votes out of 19,000 is reasonable. I'll be waiting.
This isn't a scenario that really lends itself to a statistical analysis (well, perhaps an incredibly complex one) - especially the one you used. Your .9^59 = .002 or .2% analysis is just laughable (and is a 1 in 500 chance really astronomical? - unlikely, sure, but astronomical?). It's just not a probability problem like that at all.

What we have is a collection of let's just call it 19100 voters. In one election they voted 19000-100 for Obama over McCain, and in another election they voted 19100-0 for Obama over Romney. And keep in mind this is a cherry-picked collection of 19100 voters. The question I see here is how likely is it that you can cherry-picked a collection of voters whose support for Obama increased 0.5% between 2008 and 2012. I imagine I could find millions of such collections of voters.
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Old 11-13-2012, 04:21 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Garden State
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My thoughts we have had LOTS of fraud going on for years---glad to see people waking up to the facts.
You mean like the "hanging chads" in Florida in 2000?
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I'm not preaching and I'm not making an argument, just laying out the facts that mathematical probability that Romney not receiving a single vote in even a middle class African American urban voting precinct/division is remarkably high.
So Blacks are a political monolith even controlling for class?
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:29 PM
 
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Please give me your statistical analysis then proving the probability that Romney would get zero votes out of 19,000 is reasonable. I'll be waiting.
See post #74
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD / NY
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I'm not preaching and I'm not making an argument, just laying out the facts that mathematical probability that Romney not receiving a single vote in even a middle class African American urban voting precinct/division is remarkably high.
Okey dokey.

Also found this piece too, this isn't a new voting phenomena in these districts. In 2007, there were 57 divisions in Philly where McCain received zero votes. In 2004, there were 5 districts where Bush received zero votes.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I'm not preaching and I'm not making an argument, just laying out the facts that mathematical probability that Romney not receiving a single vote in even a middle class African American urban voting precinct/division is remarkably high.
What about when you raise that to the 59th power?
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Houston
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What we have is a collection of let's just call it 19100 voters. In one election they voted 19000-100 for Obama over McCain, and in another election they voted 19100-0 for Obama over Romney. And keep in mind this is a cherry-picked collection of 19100 voters. The question I see here is how likely is it that you can cherry-picked a collection of voters whose support for Obama increased 0.5% between 2008 and 2012. I imagine I could find millions of such collections of voters.
There ios a hell of a lot of difference between going from 50 to 50.5% then there is going from .5% to 0%.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:43 PM
 
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What about when you raise that to the 59th power?
Raise what to the 59th power and why would I?!?!?
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