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That's what happens when you have government in every aspect of your life.
Tax-evasion is a pretty serious crime. People want to ***** about people the poor not paying anything in, but somehow a business owner dodging taxes is a hero.
Tax-evasion is a pretty serious crime. People want to ***** about people the poor not paying anything in, but somehow a business owner dodging taxes is a hero.
You don't get things both ways.
Not a hero, at all but what does the government expect? They want citizens to be honest, yet Washington DC is full of tax evaders. Go figure.
Tax-evasion is a pretty serious crime. People want to ***** about people the poor not paying anything in, but somehow a business owner dodging taxes is a hero.
You don't get things both ways.
Yeah, because that business owner is likely saving the jobs of his employees, and protecting the income for he and his family based on what is an extreme over-reach by their government. If he doesnt do that, many more people including himself wouldnt be contributing to the tax system...not to mention the impact on any suppliers that he buys supplies like food, lighting, and cleaning products from.
21% sales tax on movie tickets vs asking people to chip in even 1% of their income towards tax the services that everyone uses is not even a close comparison in my book.
If you did, you wouldn't be making the argument you just did. May be you should start selling carrots?
What argument are you supposed to make to someone that is stating that the correlation between tax rate and avoidance\reluctance to pay doesn't work the same in another country because they call their money by a different name?
The unspoken aspect of the argument is of course the likelihood of being caught coupled with the penalty. This is one of the reasons why you will see multiple types of taxation strategies within a country because it makes it more difficult to avoid just a single type of tax. For example, in Ireland you VAT and income taxes (plus others) VAT is a lot tougher to avoid.
You want to have a serious economic discussion about taxation? Wonderful news! Let's begin.
For example, I generally dislike high sales taxes because they are regressive towards the poor. However, CA is pushing these and in that case it tends to make more sense due to their extensive underground cash economies. How do you feel about that?
Yeah, because that business owner is likely saving the jobs of his employees, and protecting the income for he and his family based on what is an extreme over-reach by their government. If he doesnt do that, many more people including himself wouldnt be contributing to the tax system...not to mention the impact on any suppliers that he buys supplies like food, lighting, and cleaning products from.
21% sales tax on movie tickets vs asking people to chip in even 1% of their income towards tax the services that everyone uses is not even a close comparison in my book.
If a tax is just put on say theatres and not it's close substitutes then the theatre is going to have a very hard time passing the tax along.
That scenario is really tough because the government is often BRIBED via campaign contributions to make life easier for some businesses and harder for their competition via regulation, taxation etc. That's a universal non-partisan problem.
In the United States most theaters and other arts organizations are not-for-profit 501-C3 status organizations. They are not taxed on revenues (earned income, as in ticket sales). I wonder if there is such a status in Spain and other countries.
BTW, the carrot thing is indeed creative thinking.
So going back to tax rates that are 20 years old would all of a sudden make them "unbearable".
This is the problem with right wing clowns, especially those of the "taxes are stealing!!!" infantile mindset. Tax rates now are low compared to where they have been over the last 50 years. This makes all the hyperbole about oppressive taxes sound so foolish and childish.
Taxes are only stealing if you take, disproportionatly from one group, as we do. If everyone pays their share, it's not stealing. Why is one person taxed at 30% while another not at all just because they work harder? THAT is what isn't right.
Taxes are only stealing if you take, disproportionatly from one group, as we do. If everyone pays their share, it's not stealing. Why is one person taxed at 30% while another not at all just because they work harder? THAT is what isn't right.
That's why it's important to consider the total tax burden paid.
Even someone making 18k a year living in an apartment is paying sales tax, property tax (indirectly via rent) and depending where they live other potential types of taxes like vehicle tax. Not to mention that every single time you buy something you are essentially paying a mark-up to cover the various taxes imposed upon the selling entity which can range from corporate income taxes, port fees, licensing fees and on and on and on.
So realistically, someone making 30k a year might not be paying any federal income tax is not paying 0% in taxes when you add in all the externalities and other taxes.
In the Netherlands they just raised the VAT from 19% to 21% and on insurance the VAT went already up from 6% to 9% and will go up in January even more....
Just watch what it is doing to a country and it will be here sooner than later.
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