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Old 11-13-2012, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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President Obama being the first president to win re-election despite a horrendous economy is clearly a crushing blow to the Republican party. It is a clear signal that they do not currently have what it takes to win elections in this country. Will this election be the end of the GOP? Will the party split up into a number of smaller fractions? Or will they figure out how to emerge stronger than ever, with a realigining midterm election reminiscent of 1994?

 
Old 11-13-2012, 07:38 AM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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My husband is watching a show he taped last night. He just came in and told me that James Bond just beat Abraham Lincoln at the box office. And boy this has been a terrible week for Republicans. LOL

Soon as we put a few Democrats in prison, we should come back stronger than ever. LOL

Now who was that sports figure that won all the awards but we all learned later that he has cheated. Things can look very different in the future when we all get the whole picture.
 
Old 11-13-2012, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I hope we don't have it go away. I hope they adopt more of a libertarian stance. If they stick with the social conservatism, it'll be in trouble for a while.
 
Old 11-13-2012, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Trust me, when nearly 50% of voters can be blatantly pandered and lied to, while denouncing fact checking, complete with religious preachers herding their congregations and telling them how they should vote... all it would take for republicanism to rise again is to pander just a little more to some they dismissed. This is politics at its worst (or best, depending on the POV).
 
Old 11-13-2012, 07:39 AM
 
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President Obama being the first president to win re-election despite a horrendous economy is clearly a crushing blow to the Republican party. It is a clear signal that they do not currently have what it takes to win elections in this country. Will this election be the end of the GOP? Will the party split up into a number of smaller fractions? Or will they figure out how to emerge stronger than ever, with a realigining midterm election reminiscent of 1994?
How doe you expand your party when you main constituents are older white males and people who are in the party are adverse to the fulll social, economic and political empowerment of people of color, the LBGT community, non-Christians, and women?
 
Old 11-13-2012, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Saudi Arabia
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President Obama being the first president to win re-election despite a horrendous economy is clearly a crushing blow to the Republican party. It is a clear signal that they do not currently have what it takes to win elections in this country. Will this election be the end of the GOP? Will the party split up into a number of smaller fractions? Or will they figure out how to emerge stronger than ever, with a realigining midterm election reminiscent of 1994?
When you look at current demographic trends together with the just completed election results, Republicans are in a difficult position politically. They will need to basically adopt some policies that appeal to the people that vote Democratic but I don't know how you do that w/o alienating their current Party loyals. We really need a strong Libertarian Party to balance out our system. We need someone lke Ron Paul as a thinker but has more appeal. I don't see an option other than separating the country. Personally, I'm actively looking for another country to emigrate to. I haven't worked in the US for 10 years and derive no benefit from the $80K+ taxes I pay every year that I can see.
 
Old 11-13-2012, 08:48 AM
 
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President Obama being the first president to win re-election despite a horrendous economy is clearly a crushing blow to the Republican party. It is a clear signal that they do not currently have what it takes to win elections in this country. Will this election be the end of the GOP? Will the party split up into a number of smaller fractions? Or will they figure out how to emerge stronger than ever, with a realigining midterm election reminiscent of 1994?
Obama has been a failure as a president, as you described him, responsible for this "horrendous economy" and yet democrats voted for him anyway. This shows the exact opposite to me, that the democrat voters will vote for any democrat for president, no matter how bad the candidate is.
 
Old 11-13-2012, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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President Obama being the first president to win re-election despite a horrendous economy is clearly a crushing blow to the Republican party. It is a clear signal that they do not currently have what it takes to win elections in this country. Will this election be the end of the GOP? Will the party split up into a number of smaller fractions? Or will they figure out how to emerge stronger than ever, with a realigining midterm election reminiscent of 1994?
We need the death of those 47 percent that voted republican round em all up in a camp let them die off on food stamps and Obama care those 47 percent mean nothing to liberal America
 
Old 11-13-2012, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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If you believe the Great Democrtic Myth, Hoover and a gang of "rich Republicans" ruined the economy, and FDR turned everythong around in a Hundred Days.

The facts tell a much different story. The recovery did not begin until a conservative Supreme Court threw out the latest iin a series of authoritrian schemes, and the business community finally got a green light. (That is, until the panderers to the point-and-grunts at the bottom of the Democrtic ranks started preaching the usual class hatreds the following year.)

With Clinton and Obama both bent upon "packing" the Supreme Court with rubber-stamping mediocrity, that won't happen this time around. Had FDR been viewed as a well-intentioned failure, rather than taking the credt for a reovery actually started by somebody whom his lackeys then demonized, the scenario might have played out differently, with some very igly Fascists waiting in the wings, and the possibility that democracy n the New World might have been as thoroughly extinguised as it was in the Old.

Four years ago, Obama and dthe Democrat's grand scheme for imposing Federal control upon a much greater protion of the economy was quickly exposed via the Tea Party and other grass roots movements of the type the dreamer deologues from within the Belteay find sooooh distasteful. The promise of that movement, however, was derailed when the Left succeed in pointing out the hijacking of the Tea Party phenomenon by social conservatives, often from rual areas, who just don't see the bigger picture. That's an unsettling paralell to the hijacking of the Democratic party by campuus radicals fortyfive years ago

The strategy of the Democratic leadership is becoming more obvious; build a coalition of the economicaly unsophisticated, demonize the opposition, and allow the economy to blunder along with minimal growth whille other societies grow much faster, just as was done in Mexico for seventy years. It will fail -- the only questions are how soon, how rapidly, who will be hurt the worst in the process, and what parts of real American democracy will survive.

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Old 11-13-2012, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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If you believe the Great Democrtic Myth, Hoover and a gang of "rich Republicans" ruined the economy, and FDR turned everythong around in a Hundred Days.

The facts tell a much different story. The Recovery did not beginuntila conservative Supreme Court throught out the latest iin a series of authoritrian schemes, and the business communtiy finally got a green light. (That is, until the panderers to the point-and -grunts started preaching the usuall class hatreds the following year.)
What brought us out of the Great Depression was massive government spending and deficit/debt growth.

For the war.

That is a fact. What FDR did was to give people confidence again, Hoover didn't give them confidence.

Oh, and FDR gave them booze again, which was a big helper.

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