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Old 11-13-2012, 04:51 PM
 
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I wonder what will happen when the Obama moochers can't get any more free stuff from the wealthy...Its going to get real interesting to say the least...

"For many of the wealthy, 2012 is becoming a good year to sell.

They're worried about the "fiscal cliff," which is when tax cuts expire and spending cuts are set to go into effect at the end of the year.

Fearing an increase in capital gains and dividend taxes, many of the rich are unloading stocks, businesses and homes before the end of the year."

Wealthy Dump Assets Before the 'Fiscal Cliff' - U.S. Business News - CNBC
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:02 PM
 
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Noithing that everyoe else isn't doing from pension panlns to day trders. Its just what you do depednig on the political win Most only notice it but it been goig on with risk off for sometime.Why do you think the FED put qe3 i plce;hopig to force people ionto equities by makig otthe of less risk less attractive. But people stillare seekigsafety with this adminsitrations policies and aims.
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I"For many of the wealthy, 2012 is becoming a good year to sell.

They're worried about the "fiscal cliff," which is when tax cuts expire and spending cuts are set to go into effect at the end of the year.
Maybe a good time to sell, after a rally like we have seen. Buy low, sell high.
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I don't know what's going to happen. Every day I go to my mail box and it's stuffed with free crap from the wealthy. I'm tired of the constant parade of limousines driving through the neighborhood dropping off free stuff, it gets old after a while. Not to mention the stream of private jets flying overhead parachuting care packages down to the little people. What are we going to do without them, how will we survive? Woe is me.
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:24 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Exactly what I would do if I were rich. In fact, I'd liquefy assets, and get out of the country while the getting's good.
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:28 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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I don't know what's going to happen. Every day I go to my mail box and it's stuffed with free crap from the wealthy. I'm tired of the constant parade of limousines driving through the neighborhood dropping off free stuff, it gets old after a while. Not to mention the stream of private jets flying overhead parachuting care packages down to the little people. What are we going to do without them, how will we survive? Woe is me.
You think it's the poor who own the grocery store down the block, the gas station, the department store, the bank, etc? Hope you've been practicing your hunter gatherer skills.
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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You think it's the poor who own the grocery store down the block, the gas station, the department store, the bank, etc? Hope you've been practicing your hunter gatherer skills.
I don't need to, I retired in 2008 at 55 and living quite well on my pension and 401k.
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:33 PM
 
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You think it's the poor who own the grocery store down the block, the gas station, the department store, the bank, etc? Hope you've been practicing your hunter gatherer skills
no need to worry the moochers can still get their free cell obama phones...
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:18 PM
 
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Exactly what I would do if I were rich. In fact, I'd liquefy assets, and get out of the country while the getting's good.

You can have my blender, it has a 'liquefy' setting.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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LOL you folks think it's just the wealthy ?

That cap gains tax going from 15% to 20% effects anyone who sells stock next year.
That includes you and me.

I have one stock that had huge gains since 2009. So I sat down and did the numbers.
It came to $6000 more under 20%.

And once those cuts expire, they are gone for good. Remember that.

So I did a wash. I sold and bought it back. Now my basis is the new higher price.
I'll take the cap gains hit this year. That's $6K less Uncle Sam gets

If you have stocks in non tax deferred accounts you might want to take a look at them.

FWIW this has happened before. And investors did the same thing. So, expect the government to report good tax revenue because many sold and took the hit but expect very anemic revenue the year after which will be under the new rules.

Forgot to add..the wealthy get an extra tacked on to cap gains so between the Obama cuts and Obamacare changes they are up near 25% cap gains tax.

Last edited by HappyTexan; 11-13-2012 at 06:37 PM..
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